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Just pondering the idea of a mountain gun with a suppressor and came across the Adirondack. I have a SS T3 CTR in .260, and a Thunderbeast CB7 due in my hands any moment, just hoping I could save some more weight. I am worried the the barrel on the Kimber Adirondack might be just a little to thin to handle the extra 7-9 oz hanging out there on the end of the barrel? Real experience anyone? Thanks.
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I had a suppressor on a 338 WM 8400 wit no problems(26" barrel). I think with the short barrel on the Adirondack it would not be a problem. Chances are good it will be stiffer than the thicker 26" barrel. Also the .338 hole in the tube takes away quite a bit of material.
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There might be other guys that can expand more on this, but if I remember correctly an 18" barrel is 3.5 times stiffer than a 26" barrel of the same diameter. I know the 8400 barrel is thicker but it just gives you an idea of how much stiffer a short barrel is compared to longer barrels.
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My only concern would be whether there's enough thickness to thread the barrel and still have enough shoulder for the suppressor or muzzle device to square up against. If there is, you're good to go.
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They are factory threaded.
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I have not tried a can on a kimber. But my experience with a can on a thin bbl'd 223 was reason enough to think it would be a bad idea. I was about 4moa difference and only semi repeatable.
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It looks like that rifle has only 16 inch barrel. It should balance okay with a lightweight can on the front. You will likely get a POI shift with the can on but if everything is setup correctly, the accuracy should be about the same as without the can. It's nice that the barrel is already threaded. The Thunderbeast brake should go right on. Make sure you use lock-tight or whatever they recommend to install the break.
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The Thunderbeast 7 inch cans are going to run much closer to 3/4 pound than 7 ounces.
I'd be concerned about not having enough shoulder to square up the can. Both AAC (Rem. Model 7 Micro 300 BO) and the Ruger (American Ranch 300 BO) have a boss at the end of a small dia. barrel to insure adequate shoulder. I don't see a boss on the adirondack.
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I thought about the same thing and called Kimber... They said the threads are for a muzzle break they are coming out with not a suppressor...
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So you bought the direct thread model? I'd have bought the one that uses the Thunderbeast break or flashhider and that would solve your problems. My guess is that a good smith could build you an adapter to thread the can on square anyway.
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The CB7 is the brake mounted can. If that is what you ordered, it will come with a brake that the suppressor fits on to. If you ordered a direct thread can, it's going to be more complicated. The thread specs for a can and a muzzle brake are usually different. Since your barrel is already at 16 inches, you don't have any extra barrel to work with.
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I'm not sure where you guys are getting the specs on the Adirondack having a 16" barrel, and threading for muzzle brake only? Specs on the Kimber site show an 18" barrel and says "threaded for muzzle brake or suppression". http://www.kimberamerica.com/adirondack
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You're right, it's 18 inches. I must have misread the specs the first time. I see that Kimber advertises a thread converter for it as well. It must be threaded 7/16 x 28. You'll probably want to buy the thread converter as that is an unusual thread spec for a silencer.
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Thanks All!
The correct specs are an 18" bbl and it is threaded 7/16 x 28. And I will have to add the thread adapter from Kimber that takes it up to 5/8 x 24 - and adds the more substantial shoulder. Kimber does indeed mention "threaded for suppression" - what that means to them I have no idea.
I messed up the weight of the CB7 its 9.7 oz bare and more like 11.5 oz with the CB brake mount - so right - much closer to 3/4 lb all said and done - can't get the can on there w/o the mount!
The CB7 was the lightest, shortest, suppressor I could find (and almost afford) in the .308 class (there are lighter "moderators"). So hopefully its in line with what Kimber had in mind for "suppression".
Sounds like I just need to give it a go and see what happens - might be a good thing - might not? I will try and report out in a month or so when this all comes together and I get some trigger time!
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Called and spoke with one of the reps direct and that is what I was told over the phone... If it will work with a suppressor...GREAT!!
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"threaded for suppression" usually means that it was threaded on a lathe indicated to center of the bore. If the threading is not concentric to the bore you risk a misaligned suppressor and a baffle strike. It's usually not an issue with breaks since they don't require the same tolerance.
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Well I just called them a minute ago and the rep said "all good" - its designed to support a suppressor. I asked if they had any reports yet of anyone running a suppressor on a .308 - good or bad - they said no reports yet. Also confirmed that the barrel taper is the same as a Ascent - the Adirondack is just shorter. So in theory you could cut down an Ascent and get to the same thing.
There are U tube video's of a guy with an Adirondack and a suppressor on a .300 BO - so at least the experiment has been started!
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So, what suppressor would you put on a Kimber Adirondack 7-08?
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Thunderbeast Ultra 7 or a SAS Reaper
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Bumping up old thread. Anyone put one of those or a Silencerco suppressor on one yet?
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