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Originally Posted by Huntz
My thinking is the idea of a light rifle is not to carry extra weight.I would use a VX3 1-5 that weighs 9 oz. with a Boone& Crockett or LR Reticle.A rifle with a heavier barrel for shooting longer ranges would be fine for a heavier scope.JMHO ,Huntz


I am only interested in the Swfa scopes.
Which is why I worded the post as I did.

I already have a Leupold Variable on the rifle(Leupold VX-1 3-9x40 which weighs less than 12 ounces )
The scope you mentioned weighs 14 ounces according to the website and has a small exit pupil.
I am not interested in this scope or any Variable that Leupold makes .

I am looking for the toughness of the SWFA scope and the windshield and ability to dial.

The rifle weighs less than 7 pounds scoped and loaded so the extra weight is not a huge issue.




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Originally Posted by deflave
I'm afraid I can't answer that.

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I'd look at the 3-9 ss too...

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I have the 3-9 SS on a semi .308 for longer distance shooting. It is a pretty heavy and fairly sizable scope, and might add more heft than needed on a Tikka SL. It is also more money than the 6xMQ or the 1-4 Classic. I think bcraig and I are both on the right track in looking into the two scopes mentioned in his post, we are simply having a hard time getting hard data on the differences between the two as per low light use. My opinion only, bcraig's may vary. For my own use, the 3-9 is more weight than I care to add to a Hawkeye that weighs 7lbs right out of the box with just the rings, no sling, no scope, no ammo.

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Same old schit...in that noone shoots anything other than their mouths.

The "data" you seek,is anything but "difficult" to procure. Hint.

Flogged on more than a few,these last few days. Illuminatis,6x MQ Fixed fhuqkers,6x MD Fixed Fhuqkers,10x MQ Fixed Fhuqkers,10x MD Fuxed Fhuqkers,etc,etc,I've got 'em all,along with Reupold 6x42's in all reticles,1" 3.5-10x's and 30mm M1 and M3's. Hint.

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Cleaning the last of it up,this morning.

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12yds 6x MQ Fixed Fhuqker in poor light,against some vegetation. I'd be curious to know,just who could fhuqk this up?!?

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Illuminati at same distance.

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Couldn't get my 1D3/17-40 nestled,to shoot good pics,so made do.

The 6x MQ Fixed Fhuqker is THE Utility Glass and I've a hunch that I've prolly had more than a bunch of them in heavy cover,waning ambient light,tough weather and likely some topography too. Hint.

6x42 exit pupil,trumps 10x42 exit pupil and 1-4x 24mm exit pupil. Hint.

Stock fit and trigger time are going to toss the greatest favors and when it's plum fhuqking dark,Illumination obviously STEALS the fhuqking Show.

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KHorn Illuminati Porn,from yesterday.

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Go 6x MQ for supreme Utility.

Now The Drooling Dumbfhuqks can weigh in with what they've "read about" and "heard about",as "Trump Cards".

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It would be really great if someone that has one, could post a good pic of the reticle in dusk conditions. I think that a 6x42 will be my next scope, but I would sure like some more assurance on the reticle thing. Boxer-you're on buddy!

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Originally Posted by Boxer


12yds 6x MQ Fixed Fhuqker in poor light,against some vegetation. I'd be curious to know,just who could fhuqk this up?!?

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Illuminati at same distance.

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Can you please post the same pictures at 100-120 yards in nearly the same conditions?

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For a lousy $300 bucks i think everyone should buy a 6X MQ and find out this stuff for themselves.... smile




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Good call Bob! BTW, Black Friday is almost upon us....and if I may, <hint>



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300 bucks is not chump change. I probably will buy one, but I am not going to throw $300 away just to find out. Homey don't play dat!


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AK you want one? grin

I'm not dumping on $300 bucks....sure its some dough. OTOH there's just some things people can't explain for us and we have to find out for ourselves by shooting.

I was curious enough to order one for myself. Be some fun finding out. wink




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Bob,

I'll probably order a 3-9 for my Tikka .223 and a 6x for a yet-to-be-bought 17 HRM.

But I'll guarantee you I'll have that 17 HRM ready before the first whistle pig pokes its nose out come spring!


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Originally Posted by sbhooper
300 bucks is not chump change. I probably will buy one, but I am not going to throw $300 away just to find out. Homey don't play dat!


They generally sell them at their Black Friday sale for $250. Most any time during the rest of the year that you find you do not like the scope, you can resell it here for that much or more. No risk involved.

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Originally Posted by bcraig
Originally Posted by Huntz
My thinking is the idea of a light rifle is not to carry extra weight.I would use a VX3 1-5 that weighs 9 oz. with a Boone& Crockett or LR Reticle.A rifle with a heavier barrel for shooting longer ranges would be fine for a heavier scope.JMHO ,Huntz


I am only interested in the Swfa scopes.
Which is why I worded the post as I did.

I already have a Leupold Variable on the rifle(Leupold VX-1 3-9x40 which weighs less than 12 ounces )
The scope you mentioned weighs 14 ounces according to the website and has a small exit pupil.
I am not interested in this scope or any Variable that Leupold makes .

I am looking for the toughness of the SWFA scope and the windshield and ability to dial.

The rifle weighs less than 7 pounds scoped and loaded so the extra weight is not a huge issue.



Better read this again.You could dial this into the next county.

Actual Magnification:
1.60 x / 4.50 x
Linear Field of View (ft/100 yd):
68.00 ft / 23.80 ft
Linear Field of View (m/100 m):
22.70 m / 7.90 m
Eye Relief (in):
4.40 in / 3.70 in
Eye Relief (mm):
112.00 mm / 94.00 mm
Weight (oz):
9.30 oz
Weight (g):
264.00 g
Objective Clear Aperture (in):
0.80 in
Objective Clear Aperture (mm):
20.00 mm
Elevation Adjustment Range:
117.00 moa
Windage Adjustment Range:
117.00 moa


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Like DakotaDeer just said, wait for the sale, try it, if you don't like it, resell it for just a touch under what you paid for it. $20-50 experiment and you can see it with your own eyes.

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Thanks ,But again i am looking for a tough scope that I can dial or use the windshield.

This scope will only have an exit pupil of 4.4 when set to 4.5 its highest power.

This scope is not designed for dialing nor does it have the windshield of the SWFA.
Nor do Leupolds have the reputation of toughness of the SWFA

Its not the scope I want.






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As long you don't mount the scope you're only out the return shipping if you don't like something from SWFA. Buy both, fondle them, then send the one you like least back.

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Regarding the MQ, it's like an upside down #4. It's not hard to find the middle on the 6x. Boxer's pic shows it well but it's understandable if you've got nothing to compare to.

And the outer portions are thicker and easier to see than the 3-9x on 3x or 4x.

No 1-4x in the house but I've had the 6x, 10x, 20x, 3-9x, 3-15x. Tough to beat Boxer's recc on the 6x for utility and 10x for play.


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Originally Posted by BobinNH
For a lousy $300 bucks i think everyone should buy a 6X MQ and find out this stuff for themselves.... smile


I'm out of work for the next 6+ months because of a shattered ankle. So I'm not spending any money that I don't have to. So forgive me if I ask a few questions.

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Originally Posted by taylorce1
Originally Posted by BobinNH
For a lousy $300 bucks i think everyone should buy a 6X MQ and find out this stuff for themselves.... smile


I'm out of work for the next 6+ months because of a shattered ankle. So I'm not spending any money that I don't have to. So forgive me if I ask a few questions.


taylor was not dumping on you for asking anything. I was making a joke.

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The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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