Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Laquan McDonald Video Not Dispositive of Police Criminal Misconduct

Once the threat is stopped, there is no justification for continuing to shoot. The first one or two shots had stopped the threat, and may not have killed him.

It was murder

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This cop was (politically correct) charged with Murder 1. Personally I think this was because he emptied his magazine into the perp on the ground. If it is shown he was legally justified in shooting the perp (even with one shot) that in itself will get him off the Murder 1 charge.

In Oklahoma we had a case where a white Pharmacist was assaulted in his store by two armed perps ([bleep]) and he pulled his .38 revolver and shot one (who fell inside the store) and chased the other out the door. When he came back inside his store to call the cops, he noticed the fallen perp (young teen) was still moving, so he shot him again as he lay on the floor. This was all captured on video tape.

The Pharmacist was convicted of Murder1 and sentenced to life with possibility of parole. Total BS in my opinion.

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Two things, #1, the decedent was not approaching the cops, but rather walking past their position - and likely taunting them with a drawn knife. This may or may not be ruled a threat to them, since the video does not suggest the decedent was approaching, attacking or otherwise endangering the cops. He was, however, a crazy mutha.

#2, any round fired after the young man was down, was excessive. His knife no longer implied a threat of any kind.

That is, unless training has changed from the time I went through three police academies.

The kid was gunned down for a minor offense, the cop looked to me like he panicked and shot the kid, which is where the problem stems, he panicked.
Improper training for todays world, old time cops would of smacked that kid with his baton, taken his knife and thrown him in jail, not now.....the same shyte just happened in Ontario, kid with a knife, nobody in danger at all, cop shoots him 9 times...WTF, why defend the cop? The kid in Ontario was not black so the race thing isn't an issue.

Why does race need to be the issue? maybe the cop simply panicked

The race thing IS the issue. If that kid had been white, we would have never heard a word about this.

Exactly

I guess it was a hard question?

This is absolutely the case. Correcting for level of threat posed by the perp, whites are many times more likely to be shot, or otherwise abused, by police in the US, than are blacks. It just so happens that blacks are many times more likely to be violent felons than whites, and many times more likely, therefore, to find themselves in violent confrontations with cops than are whites, thus the stats that show blacks being shot or beaten by cops being in excess proportion to their numbers in the population. Based on stats, adjusted for percentages of violent felons by race, the numbers of blacks shot by cops should actually be much higher, which demonstrates that cops exercise less restraint when dealing with whites than they do with blacks.

Not true.

Is there a breakdown showing the time from 1st shot to last shot?

About 15 seconds, I heard.

As someone else posted in another thread, "Either lethal force is justified, or it is not."

That's from your academy days or when you were on the force?

and then there are the morons that would prefer total anarchy............

Silly rabbit. He didn't make it into the academy. Its why he is so bitter about cops.

Heres a case where the Police watched a man being stabbed and they locked themselves in a closet for their own safety. Then they lied and told the public that the police had subdued and captured the serial killer. After the lawsuit the city found the Police have no responsibility to protect citizens if they may encounter danger themselves.

http://nypost.com/2013/01/27/city-says-cops-had-no-duty-to-protect-subway-hero-who-subdued-killer/

Haven't watched the video, don't intend to.

What bothers me is that apparently two cops get out of their cruiser, and a perp with a knife is close.

Now, maybe I don't have enough banty rooster or testosterone in me, but I would get back in the cruiser......

Is it so absurd to think that de-escalation is more important than "stopping the threat"?

Unless the knife guy was about to walk into a girls only grade school yard at recess...... Get back in the cruiser, get behind the cruiser, call for a psych backup, and everyone lives another day.

Why would you want a deranged perp with a knife to continue to live in a peaceful society? So he could take an innocent life another day?

Lesson here is:

1. Don't do drugs.

2. Don't pull a knife on armed police officers

3. Drop the knife or lie down if an armed police officer tells you too, especially if you are on drugs.

Hear tell he was bumped by a jewish negro named Sammy Davis...