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I agree guys, we have shot the 200 NAB out of the 325 wsm with proven results.
Could this be just a freak thing?
I plan on shooting something else with it soon and see.
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My experiance 6.5X47L 130 AB @2850 Exit Enter
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I had a 140gr 7mm Accubond frag on an antelope. It was facing me at 100 yards and the bullet entered in front of the left shoulder and never penetrated the diaphragm. I just figured that the 3100 fps impact velocity was outside the design parameters.
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You guys saying your bullet of choice, have you tried anything else?
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Shot a buck last week with a 200 AB out of a 300 why..3050 fps..deer was 40 yds... Punched clear through...couldn't even see an exit hole....feeling from the inside the exit hole was only slightly bigger than entry...buck didn't take a step..
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Saw a guy shoot a smallish interior grizzly between the shoulder blades with the 200gr .325wsm factory load at about 125yds. Blew a hole about like a tennis ball in the hide there and apparently vaporized on the vertebrae it hit there. Didn't leave me impressed nor did the 140lb whitetail buck the same guy used the same rifle on that ended up with a 6" diameter exit on a broadside rib shot. He also blew a coyote nearly in half with the same rifle and load. He likes it, puts stuff down right now normally with the blender effect in the ribcage. I'm a little more into penetration and less bloodshot. Heck the two bull caribou I shot last fall with 85gr Ballistic Tips out of my 257wby had less damage than anything I've seen him shoot with the 200AB.
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Sometimes weird stuff happens.
son-in-law shot a doe antelope with a .30-06/165g TTSX, broadside at about 100 yards. Small diameter entrance but the exit side was open from the shoulder almost to the back leg. Multiple ribs were broken and entrails were hanging out. Not at all what we've come to expect from TTSX, which normally leave a small entrance and exit.
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Sample of two 110gr NAB's from two different .270's on KY WT's. First was shot at approx 230 yards. Deer was DRT. Second was shot at 25-30 yards. Deer ran 30-40 yards. Both thru and thru. Both with smallish entrance and exits more like a TSX than a cup and core... But, two dead deer, so no complaints...
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The entrance wound to the very first 140-grain .270 caliber TSX my wife fired into game (the very first year TSX’s appeared) was much bigger than the one that started this thread--and the animal was coyote at about 200 yards. Two days later Eileen shot a spike elk with the same load, at just about the same range, and the entrance wound was tiny.
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I've shot several deer with 140gr 7mm and 130gr 6.5mm accubonds. Never got consistent results with them. The ones that passed through left very small exit wounds. I had a couple that blew up on entrance that had about a 2 inch entrance and 22cal sized exits. Ballistic tips are more consistent on performance.
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I've shot hogs and deer with the 110gr .257cal, 130gr .264cal, and 160gr .284cal versions. I always got consistent performance from them, although the .257 did not give me the penetration I wanted on several occasions. I shot it at 3,100fps or so. The others were launched at 2,800-2,900fps and are still my bullets of choice in several rifles.
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That entrance looks like the holes I used to get with 175 partitions (3,150 fps) from a 7-.300 Weatherby with a 28" barrel. I never aimed at the shoulder. Also never recovered one.
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Two 140gr Accubonds went all the way on a Mt Goat ar 20 yards. A couple of the same on Deer. One at 358. Small sample, but I would think there coming apart is the exception.
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Well I am going to shoot one more with... It will be a purposeful shoulder shot. We shall see.
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Some have said Accubonds are their bullet of choice. I concur. I've taken game using Accubonds across the spectrum from 6mm to 375 caliber. Another asked have you shot any other bullet. Yes, Speer,Grand Slam, Trophy Bonded Bear Claw, Barnes X, Barnes X XLC Coated, TSX, TTSX, Berger, Hornady V-Max, SST, Interlock and Interbond, Sierra Game Kings in Spitzer and HPBT, Combined Technology Fail Safe, Ballistic SilverTip, Nosler Solid Base, Ballistic Tip, and Partition, to mention a few. Most of the critters I've shot have been under 300 lbs and include hogs to numerous to count, bear, deer,exotics (axis, black buck, sika) javelina, varmints and Aoudad sheep. Consequently I can't speak to critters like elk. I've recovered one Accubond from a white-tail doe shot lenghtwise. It went through the front shoulder and lodged under the skin of the flank. All others have been through and through. Distances from 30 yds to +/- 400 yds. Velocities from a low as 2,400 FPS MV to +/- 3,200 FPS MV. Typically a small entry wound.......... and an exit wound that while not overly dramatic (IMHO somewhat larger that that of a Nosler Partition or TSX) at similar distances and MVs. The hoglet in the above pix was shot at a distance of 175 yds with a 200 grain 8mm Accubond started at +/- 2,800 FPS and is typical of the results I see. JAPPFT, GWB
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JG,
I agree with you about the NAB.
But, that's a nasty entrance wound, looks sorta like those early Ballistic Tips before Nosler changed the configuration.
JB wrote about some NAB's that slipped thru production with someone trying to hurry the process. The result was bullets not correctly bonded.
To the OP, are these new NAB's or some you've had for a while?
DF This was my first thought as well. I am going to just stick to using NP's..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I have shot a total of 5-6 140 AB's into 3-4 decent sized deer and recovered the very first one today. Bad shot on my part, quartering away hard(150-200 yards?), hurried, dropped him on the spot but required a broadside finisher 100 yards later(textbook dime in, golf ball out through a rib and little shoulder). I wouldn't take a first shot like that unless I had confidence in the bullet. The 140 Accubond in 270 is uber. Found on the offside hide after ruining a bunch of good vension. Missed the mark by about 3" left.
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This is a broadside exit on a bull elk from a 180 AB handload fired from a 308 at 2550 MV, 278 yard shot so a pretty mellow job for that bullet. Looks about the same as the exits with the 165 AB out of a 308 I've seen. Bull went maybe 75 feet and fell over.
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Allen Day used some of those first Accubonds, and that is where I first heard the "Accubomb" moniker.
Maybe they had another bad batch???
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