Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Handguns I don't care about 50 yd accuracy!

LOL

Maybe I should say:

"Shooting is the easy part to practice.

The decision to shoot is the hard part to practice"

This is another argument over relatively nothing. A person should practice at a lot of varying distances if they have time. I don't think anybody with any sense is going to practice seriously for self-defense by spending a huge amount of time practicing at-distance unless they have a lot of time and ammo and/or have mastered close range shooting. IME and from most of the stuff I've read over the years, that's where TRAINING comes into play because one tends to lose a step if they don't practice regularly (in this case, at close range). I wouldn't purport to be experienced enough to know whether there are guys who can quit training much after mastery though, and continue to shoot well at close range while spending all their time training at longer ranges. Maybe there are.

On the court part of it, there are a whole lot of variables. Just a lot of scenarios here. I don't consider myself, as Jan Libourel used to say, "The Master Gunfighter", nor am I out to kill somebody just because I can or even because I can legally. If somebody is shooting at me from fifty yards and I can get behind cover and further assess the situation in a safer manner than shooting back AND there is no other innocent person at risk, then I am going to duck behind cover and do what is called for next. If some jaybird is shooting at me from fifty yards and the conditions warrant it, then I'm gonna shoot back and hope I shot enough at that distance that I get him before he gets me.

I don't think there's really a lot of room for argument in that assessment.

The range was about 50 yards on a city street if memory serves.

Hey, if you're in the luxurious position of having tons of ammo provided at someone else's expense, and tons of range time, you can do it all, baby. If, however, one must, as is the case with most of us mere mortals, restrict himself to say a hundred rounds a week, and say one hour a week of live trigger time, it's likely better spent focusing on the most likely self defends scenarios.

Lots of folks hung up on cities. I don't live in one, I'm seldom in one.

If something is going to happen the odds are it will happen where a person spends 99% of their time and that time is spent at home.

50 yard shots defend are more than likely and I ain't worried about backstops.

Either that story is part of an incredible imagination, or they encountered the stupidest DA on the planet.



Travis

There was a time when police actually had to qualify with a 50 yard course of fire. But then, there was a time when most gun writers actually fired groups with their hands at ranges beyond "combat" distances to test both the metals mettle and their own.

Then there was the Air Force Security Forces patrolman who brought down a deranged killer at 75 yards with his M9.

I killed a groundhog with a 2" Model 10 at a hair over 50 yards as well. But I cheated. I leaned across the hood of my car.

I'd have to check to confirm it's still the case, but I believe NHF&G still does.

I would not lol at that, not even lower case.

I would even say that shooting isn't complicated, decision making is. Not to correct, but to contribute.

So, is that a maybe that you'll shoot it? What I'm hearing is that there's a chance....

Based on his parameters he should be able to shoot it twice......

George

Scenario:

A negro boosts your pit.

He stops at 50 yards to get into his green truck.

What do you do?

The form of your question is confusing, and seems cryptic in meaning. Could you make it less so?

Here......you're whining about having one hour and 100 rounds to work with. This course of fire meets your parameters..... He's wondering if you're actually going to shoot or continue to talk. I know where my money is.....

I was whining??

Thanks.

Would you not agree that it's easier to practice and train if somebody not only pays for the ammo, but provides a place to do so, possibly an instructor to train you, and probably pays you for doing it?

The average guy shoots because he likes to, but has to pay for a place to do so, buy his own ammo (and firearms), pay for instruction and do it on his own time not while getting paid to do so.

Do you see any difference here in why, how, etc. regular folks train as opposed to LE? Many here like to knock guys who haven't taken a half-dozen nationally-known courses and who don't "train" every day inclusive of at distances that would make Elmer Keith cringe in shock and awe. There are differences though.

None of which has anything to do with a slow fire, 50 round drill at 3 yards that lasts 15 minutes.

Instead of just shooting the drill or just shrugging and thinking "I don't want to", people start talking about why they can't shoot-why other people shoot more. Lots of typing, not much shooting.