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You hit the nail on the head ---- some folks are rather ignorant of the use of pointed bullets in tubular magazines!!!! Talk about a lawsuit!!!!!
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Ho Hum. But I do like the Marlins, especially the older ones in .35. Plateau Hunter
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Ho Hum. But I do like the Marlins, especially the older ones in .35. Plateau Hunter Now thats an idea,when they make the 308 Marlin Express in a rifle without the extra stupid safety I will buy one,or maybe not. I do own 3 Savage 99s <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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whats it gonna do that a 30-30 loaded to the same pressures is not? Be availalble in a factory load. Can't load a "hot 30-30 cuz someone will load it in a modle 94 and blow it up. BMT
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Anyone know what it is based on, or is it a new case?
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You hit the nail on the head ---- some folks are rather ignorant of the use of pointed bullets in tubular magazines!!!! Talk about a lawsuit!!!!! so what happens the first time some yahoo reloads the empties with a hard point .308 spitzer? whoaaaaa.
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You hit the nail on the head ---- some folks are rather ignorant of the use of pointed bullets in tubular magazines!!!! Talk about a lawsuit!!!!! so what happens the first time some yahoo reloads the empties with a hard point .308 spitzer? whoaaaaa. About the same thing that happens when they reload the .30-30 or a .356 with a spitzer.
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The latest Shooting Times (January 2007) has case dimensions.
.500" rim, .4703" case head.
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6mm250,
I like that "extra stupid safety". I bought a 336 for my grandson last year, and think it is a worthwhile safety feature. The "safe" position on a lever gun is simply with the trigger at half cock. The only time the cross bolt safety is engaged is when loading or unloading. It is always in the "fire" position when hunting. If you've ever heard a gunshot about 30 minutes before it's light enough to shoot, it's probably someone loading a 30-30 without the cross bolt safety, and somehow the hammer went from fully cocked, which happens automatically when working the lever action, to fully down on a loaded chamber.
Familiarity with one's own firearm is assumed. If a lever gun is equipped with a cross bolt safety, it's not difficult to learn to engage it only for loading and unloading, and to learn to use only the half cock safety for hunting.
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The second coming of the 307 Win.....
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sst,I guess i'm just too old & don't like change. Admittedly it takes a bit of manipulation and practice but a Marlin (and I assume a Winchester) can be unloaded without cycleing the rounds through the barrel.
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The second coming of the 307 Win..... Second coming of the .300 Savage...
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The .307 / .356 died a quick, quiet death because they attempted to solve a problem that didn't exist and make traditional lever guns into something they were never meant to be. The new .308 Marlin will likely suffer the same fate.
Traditional rounds such as the .30-30 and .35 Rem are honest 200 yard rifles in the right hands and that's about the limit of open sights anyway.
The "new and improved" rounds offer little in the way of range increase (maybe 300 yards...and then only if scoped). When scoped a traditional lever gun loses it's main attribute.......balance and speed of use. The "problem" these rounds solve doesn't exist. If a 300 yard rifle is needed......you'd be much better served with a good bolt action. Or even better if a truely beautiful and balanced lever gun is wanted......a Savage 99.
I hate change, it's never for the better.... Grumpy Old Men
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well i'm with the crowd of just rebring out the 300 savage
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SST.....to each his own I guess. If you like the ugly safety on newer Marlins.....I'm sure you also love the transfer bar on New Model Ruger Blackhawks too. I personally can't stand either. If God had wanted them that way he would have sent a message to the original designers.
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"If God had wanted them that way he would have sent a message to the original designers."
That was good. I liked that. I actually don't like the looks of the cross bolt safeties, and can see how someone might overlook the position of that cross bolt at an inopportune time. For my grandson's first rifle, though, I thought it was an excellent idea. I've loaded a lot of 30-30s over the last 40 some years of hunting, for myself and others. Letting the hammer back down to half cock after loading in the dark can sometimes be tricky when it's cold and you're wearing gloves, and the scope is in the way. It's always an accident, but a lot of lever guns go off that way every deer season.
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well i'm with the crowd of just rebring out the 300 savage The problem is the existing Savage loads won't work in a rifle with a tubular magazine. Unless you're looking to lose body parts...
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Well, I can't find a 300 Savage or .307 Win in a Marlin, so I'm very much looking forward to the new .308!
I've tried to "like" a Savage 99, but I can't. Every one that I pick up feels like a 2X4 to me.
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