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That would depend on a number of factors. I''ve shot coyotes with a .22-250 and a .44 Mag and will take the .22-250 every time.

Tried to dispatch a downed coyote with my .44 Mag Super Redhawk using a 240g Speer JSP at 1519fps. The distance was about 4 feet, muzzle to dog. The first two shots put holes through its lungs and every time it breathed air came out the holes and turned to steam in the cold morning air. I finally gave up and put one in its head.

Big holes ae nice but they are not the only answer.

The same? As in 300g hardcast and 460g hardcast? Or the same bullet in .44 Mag pistol, .44 Mag carbine and .444 Marlin?

Hey, I'm not the one that started comparing apples to oranges.

Neither am I, that was your buddy Swamprat...............

"Is the 7RM more powerful than the .30-30?"

I have no confidence in any of the sub-.308s other than for use on varmit class animals where recovery isn't an issue. The .243 is an excellent varmit cartridge as are most of the centerfire .22s. I would give up deer hunting if restricted to the 7RM.

Yes or no will work here........................

no

pretty weak....................

I someone like your dad gives you a 7RM then it's fine to use it, maybe for sentimental reason you should. Why anyone would buy a 7RM, a .280, or a .270 is beyond me. They are pretty weak!

I'd choose the .30-30 or the .30-06 over any of them in a New York second. Of course this thread is actually about another newly invented cartridge designed to part the naive from their pocket book.

All the cartridges you call pretty weak are more powerful than the 30-30, but we've already been down this road and crashed.................

Yes, we have. I base my opinions on field experience. I've have no real use for the "needle guns."

What state do you live in?

So, the 7RM is less powerful than the .30-30 Winchester?

A round that can deliver a 175 gr. bullet at 2800 fps and 3200 ft./lbs. of energy, is LESS powerful than a round that can deliver a 170 gr. bullet at 2200 fps and 1800 ft./lbs.?

Where on earth if you learn numbers?

You base your opinions on ONE instance, as you have stated, and discount literally THOUSANDS of other instances, ballistics, and the laws of physics.

You would give up hunting if restricted to the 7mm Rem. Magnum. Have you ever used one?

Forget it VA, 'tis a lost cause.................

"You would give up hunting if restricted to the 7mm Rem. Magnum. Have you ever used one?"

Yes, a Browning A-Bolt.

How about the rest of the question? You know, the numbers part?

The inconsistent bullet performance of the "needle guns" makes them unsuitable for game that needs to be recovered.

That is a bullet problem, not a caliber issue.

You can have inconsistent bullet results in anything, including the .30-30. Try various lots of Winchester SilverTips, for example. Definitely the same with the .30-06; where a 220 gr. RN will pencil right through deer without expanding and result in either multiple shots or lost deer. Happens ALL the time, until the hunter realizes that the 220 is built for moose not deer, and switches to 150 or 165s.

BTW - "needle gun"? The 7mm is a whopping 14/1000s of one inch smaller in diameter than the .30 caliber.

Now, please do explain how a .30-30 that delivers less than 60% of the energy of the 7mmRM is more powerful than the 7?

Because the larger the bullet dia., the more consistent the bullet performance. Bullets that explode or pencil through transmit no energy.

What is so MAGIC about the .308 diameter ?

SM1---what state do you live/hunt in?