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Re: If SWFA were to make a hunting model...... RDFinn #10761967 12/08/15
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bellydeep Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,638 E of the Rockies, W of the res...	Cap the windage turret on the 3-9X42, add a zero stop to the elevation turret, and move the reticle to SFP or illuminate it. Alternatively, cap the elevation turret as well, and put enough correction in the reticle to get out there a ways (think Nightforce SHV 3-10). Resettable dials under the caps would be nice to, so if you had the time, you could dial for a shot. Originally Posted by shrapnel I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. Originally Posted by JohnBurns I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.

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Re: If SWFA were to make a hunting model...... RDFinn #10762080 12/08/15
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woofer Campfire Outfitter W Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,294 VT...	5x. 30mm. 36 bell. ill ret. like to see lower reticle post with hashes to aid in quick pokes. Ele turret. I be happy. W "I would build one again, if it were not for my 350RM (grin)." MtnHtr

Re: If SWFA were to make a hunting model...... woofer #10762107 12/08/15
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Oregon45 Campfire Outfitter O Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 13,000 Oregon	Take the 6x MQ and delete the AO making the rear objective slimmer; delete the windage turret; retain the elevation turret; add illumination.

Re: If SWFA were to make a hunting model...... Cruiser1 #10762151 12/08/15
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whitebread Campfire Regular W Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 563 Raleigh, NC	Originally Posted by Cruiser1 Copy the Zeiss Victory Diavari 2.5-10x42, done. Exactly.

Re: If SWFA were to make a hunting model...... RDFinn #10762169 12/08/15
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 18,453 Bernardsville, NJ RDFinn OP Campfire Ranger
OP RDFinn Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 18,453 Bernardsville, NJ	You mean something like this one ? This is what the new Firefly reticle looks like...

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Re: If SWFA were to make a hunting model...... RDFinn #10762217 12/08/15
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Ackleyfan Campfire Outfitter A Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,130	Something along the lines of an ATACR 4x16x42, except 2nd fp,capped windage,ZS. 21-23-oz's. 30mm tube, a better looking elevation turret, windage hash marks!

Re: If SWFA were to make a hunting model...... Ackleyfan #10762236 12/08/15
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OP RDFinn Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 18,453 Bernardsville, NJ	The F1reticle is very similar to the new MilQuad DM.

Re: If SWFA were to make a hunting model...... RDFinn #10762289 12/08/15
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Higginez Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 17,314 Likes: 1 Durham, CA	Take a 6x42 Leupold, add the SWFA's mil quad reticle, ele turret and low profile windage dial and I'd buy 1,000 of them. Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again! Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.

Re: If SWFA were to make a hunting model...... 4ager #10762361 12/08/15
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MojoHand Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 7,866 HTTP 404	Originally Posted by 4ager Put the illumination in their 6x42 MQ. Done. Yep! Although I wouldn't mind a lighter version. Maybe a 1" tube for those of us who don't need so much erector travel... Give me that in a 12-15 oz range and all my rifles would be carrying them.,(I just can't bring myself to switch out my 10 oz Leup 6x36 for a 20 oz SS on my sub 7 lb T3 SL...yet) It ain't what you don't know that makes you an idiot...it's what you know for certain, that just ain't so... Most people don't want to believe the truth~they want the truth to be what they believe. Stupidity has no average...

Re: If SWFA were to make a hunting model...... JCMCUBIC #10762389 12/08/15
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MtnBoomer Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 31,428 59644	Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC 6x42 with no windage, no parralax/AO. 4" eye relief. Millquad with illuminated dot. Like this but AO is AOK. Same treatment on the 3-9 also. Loosing the exposed windage dial should shave a couple ounces. Made in Japan, please. "I can't be canceled, because, I don't give a fuuck!" --- Kid Rock 2022 Holocaust Deniers, the ultimate perverted dipchits: Bristoe, TheRealHawkeye, stophel, Ghostinthemachine, anyone else?

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Re: If SWFA were to make a hunting model...... RDFinn #10762534 12/08/15
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1234 Campfire Regular 1 Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,970 idaho	6x42 with heavy duplex, its got great turrets it doesn't need the trick reticle. Ed

Re: If SWFA were to make a hunting model...... RDFinn #10762592 12/08/15
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4th_point Campfire Tracker 4 Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,874 Oregon	RDF, I can't complain about what SWFA currently offers, but realize that there is probably a large contingent of fuddy-duddy types that would be thrilled to see an ultra-durable 3-9x, with dotz. Give them a stiff low-pro elevation turret with huge numbering, and capped windage. These dudes would love a scope that can take a beating, and allow for medium range shots with the reticle. And maybe the opportunity to shoot farther or more precisely with a turret that they can see w/o reading glasses. Some might like a duplex rather than dotz. And maybe more magnification. I have zero interest in the above but believe there are many that do. Thanks for posing the question. Jason

Re: If SWFA were to make a hunting model...... RDFinn #10762799 12/08/15
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RHutch Campfire Regular R Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,888 Frisco TX	3-12x or up to 15x 40-44mm obj 20-22oz No longer than 12.5" 30mm tube FFP G2-ish reticle with illuminated dot or floating cross Capped windage, lo-pro elevation w/zero stop Mil/mil (or moa/moa for the unwashed) Side parallax with illumination control Basically add illumination to a LRHS and put it on a slight diet.

Re: If SWFA were to make a hunting model...... RDFinn #10762934 12/08/15
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hunting1 Campfire Tracker H Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,869 Albuquerque, NM, USA	2-10, 3-15, and a 4-16 with no more than 42mm objective and under 16-oz. Good Shooting!

Re: If SWFA were to make a hunting model...... RDFinn #10762977 12/08/15
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TATELAW Campfire Tracker T Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,082 NORTHEAST MISSISSIPPI	A lot of these ideas are great but the quickest and cheapest change that could be made is just offer a good duplex on the current models. The current reticles are fine in good daylight, not so much at dawn and dusk. IR could help but that would probably add substantially to the cost. Those who must raise their voice to get their point across are generally not intelligent enough to do so in any other way.

Re: If SWFA were to make a hunting model...... RDFinn #10763095 12/08/15
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Terryk Campfire Tracker Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 6,457 Mountains of Central PA	I would think along the lines of doing changes that don't cost a lot, and don't substantially change the production line. So keep the 3-9, keep the weight, and change the reticles to a plex, MOAR, #4, and cut down the turrets a bit. I don't think is is a good idea to mess with the tube and click system, those changes along with weight compromise integrity. Dramatic changes cost money and there is a chance of producing a dog.

Re: If SWFA were to make a hunting model...... RDFinn #10763127 12/08/15
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RWE Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 26,524 Old North State	Frankly, the Milquad is not a hunting reticle. A simple duplex, or a Germ4. They could even put a stadia mark or two below the crosshair. Say 8MOA from intersection to thick line, and a line at 1.5 MOA and 4.5 MOA (or mil equivalents) as these seem to be standard drops for typical sight ins. I could deal with a either .2mil, or 1/2MOA click on the turret if it was a simple fix. As others have stated, capped or much lower profile windage, and a lower profile elevation.

Re: If SWFA were to make a hunting model...... RDFinn #10763316 12/08/15
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pointer Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,661 Indiana	Put the 1-4 Classic reticle in the 6X or a 3-15 (ish) scope in FFP, but without the lines above the middle. Cap the windage turret. Second place, would be the 1-6 HD reticle appropriately sized. Both with the illumination. I could easily see this being useful for hunting.

Re: If SWFA were to make a hunting model...... Terryk #10763544 12/09/15
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Hondo64d Campfire Tracker H Joined: May 2003 Posts: 5,792 The Big Country	The huge variety of answers here is likely why SWFA will not add a "hunting" scope. Too many different taste. No matter what they produced, they would likely not satisfy enough of the masses to make it profitable. John If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

Re: If SWFA were to make a hunting model...... RDFinn #10763631 12/09/15
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Kaleb Campfire Outfitter K Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 7,722 TN	That's true but one thing that's seeming consistent is the windage turret deal.

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