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I predict this second thread will be the beginning of the end of what could have been a wonderful thing.

Kudos to SAS for all his hard work and excellent CS regardless of anything else.

I predict this second thread will be the beginning of the end of what could have been a wonderful thing.

Kudos to SAS for all his hard work and excellent CS regardless of anything else.

Agreed. These guns are not known for feeing issues...infact they are known for reliability if anything. You have a spring, a follower, and a mag box...that's it. I can't imagine anything too serious is wrong.

Not giving a pass..they should have fixed it...but you can probably fox it yourself,

These guns are not known for feeing issues...infact they are known for reliability if anything. You have a spring, a follower, and a mag box...that's it.

The other thread seems to have wandered off course enough, so I wanted to post this separate one to share my impressions and disappointment with my MRC 1999 X2 .243, this one a left hand version.

Good
- It does exude quality when you examine it. Tang and bottom metal are inletted almost perfectly flush with the stock, the action inletting is very close, finish overall looks great.
- It comes in a sturdy box.

Neutral
- It is heavy, much too heavy for a .243, but I can live with that. My Winchesters are all well over 8 pounds scoped as well.

Somewhat disappointing
- Accuracy is mediocre so far. I've fired 22 four shot groups so far with four different bullets, various powder charges and two different seating depths, including the longer bullets this thing was twisted for like the Hornady 105 Amax. Best group of all was .720", worst was 2.591", with the others somewhere in between. Btw, runout of all rounds was around .002" (I do know how to load straight ammo thanks to MD's articles).


The big disappointment, the deal killer, the reason MRC has lost a supporter and customer for life.
- It doesn't feed worth a tinker's damn. 100 grain Hornady spire points and Sierra 85 HPBT's coming up from the right have their noses jammed into the collar to the left of the chamber. Once in a while one coming up from the left will have the nose jammed into the collar to the right of the chamber. Plastic tips (Amax and Vmax) so far feed okay.

When the rounds are jammed, the extractor has not captured the round so you can't pull it back out. If you retract the bolt the next round's head will rise up enough to be fed, so you have a double feed jam.

That is particularly "amusing" (that's sarcasm) since when the rifle doesn't jam the nose, the rounds may or may not rise up enough in the magazine to be caught by the bolt. This is particularly true on the second to last one coming up from the right. The bolt just slides back and forth over it until you push the nose down to bring the case head up.

Seriously, while I haven't owned astronomical numbers of rifles, I have owned a couple hundred at least, from bargain basement to full custom. A few had feeding issues of some kind or other but not one ever jammed like this, especially after coming back from being "fixed".


Why this is such a HUGE disappointment.
1. The whole raison d'etre of a CRF rifle is 100% perfect functioning, including feeding, under all conditions. That's it. This one fails at its most basic task.
2. I would not have written this without giving MRC a chance to make it right, which I did. I sent it back to them at the end of November (on my dime) with a nice letter explaining the problem and they said their gunsmith would go over it and wouldn't send it back until it was perfect.

Well, it ain't perfect. It is a long, long, long way from perfect. They had a chance to make it better, promised they would, but didn't.


I'm not angry about this, just extremely disappointed. You learn to take these things in stride and not let them upset your day, but MRC has lost a customer for life and while I'm not going to run around making posts to bad mouth them (other than this one), whenever threads about "How do you like your MRC 1999" come up then depending on my mood I will post a link back to this post.

Not sure what I'm going to do with this. I'm tempted to throw it on a bonfire and see what it feels like to literally burn up $1100, but that feeling is only sporadic - it usually only happens whenever I look at the rifle. Since I have nothing to lose, I may just take my own amateurish and deadly file skills to this and see what I can do.


Anyway, to those who got good ones, I'm glad for you. As to the MRC Model 1999 X2 overall, I'm sure this rifle is a fluke as no one else seems to have this problem.

But to MRC - thbbbtttt!!! You had a second chance and you totally blew it.








While MRC won't care, I'm thinking the best way to handle this is to buy a RAR .243 which will outfeed and outshoot it for 1/3 the cost. Then I'll store the two rifles side by side and let the RAR sneer at it.

Not quite.

There's also rails, feedramp and extractor. Could be there's too much pressure on the cartridges with a too stiff magazine spring. Could be a poorly shaped feedramp. Could be rough rails, or badly machined rails. Could be a follower of the wrong shape. The extractor "pinch" could be too hard. SA cartridges generally don't feed "quite" as well as LA cartridges in a crf, and anything wrong with the other components can magnify that reality, etc., etc.

Modern CRF's can often be full of problems. Pushfeeds are simpler. A pushfeed can't match a properly tuned crf for easy feeding, but a lot more parts/pieces have to work well together for this to be true.

I wonder how individual rounds (no others in the magazine) feed?

Not quite.

There's also rails, feedramp and extractor. Could be there's too much pressure on the cartridges with a too stiff magazine spring. Could be a poorly shaped feedramp. Could be rough rails, or badly machined rails. Could be a follower of the wrong shape. The extractor "pinch" could be too hard. SA cartridges generally don't feed "quite" as well as LA cartridges in a crf, and anything wrong with the other components can magnify that reality, etc., etc.

Modern CRF's can often be full of problems. Pushfeeds are simpler. A pushfeed can't match a properly tuned crf for easy feeding, but a lot more parts/pieces have to work well together for this to be true.

I wonder how individual rounds (no others in the magazine) feed?