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Originally Posted by Canazes9
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I have handloaded TSX bullets and shot them at 1800 to 2000 fps in wet newsprint and they looked like that after recovery. Granted the did not have the rotational velocity but that has been proven not to make a diff,

Most all of them looked like this


So you have no idea.

Got it.

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Evidently you have no idea


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Originally Posted by Fotis
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I have handloaded TSX bullets and shot them at 1800 to 2000 fps in wet newsprint and they looked like that after recovery. Granted the did not have the rotational velocity but that has been proven not to make a diff,

Most all of them looked like this


So you have no idea.

Got it.

David


Evidently you have no idea


I know you're more interested in spreading BS than performing objective testing.

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Bottom line...... Are you happy with that bullet's performance under those circumstances ?????

If you are then great......... I am not!


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Originally Posted by Fotis
Bottom line...... Are you happy with that bullet's performance under those circumstances ?????

If you are then great......... I am not!


What circumstances are those Fotis? The land of make believe and bull $hit?

Keep pretending....

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OK Guy. we have another idiot in our midst!


Are you happy with the aforementioned projectile's performance at a striking velocity at 2K fps.


Can you answer that? Only that!!!!!


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Originally Posted by Fotis
OK Guy. we have another idiot in our midst!


Are you happy with the aforementioned projectile's performance at a striking velocity at 2K fps.


Can you answer that? Only that!!!!!


Fotis,

Everybody sees the BS you're spreading.

You don't know what the impact velocity was, you seem to be stupid enough to think that shooting a bullet at 2000fps will yeild the same performance as shooting a bullet and having it impact at 2000fps. You won't address any of the outright fabrications and bs in your post, just want people to comment on how it looks w/ your fabricated data.

Is that why you refused to answer what the initial velocity is? Because that is it's initial velocity? Why won't you answer that question?

Why do you keep ignoring questions about what rifle fires a 120TTSX slow enough for those kind of velocities at 300yds?

Does Nosler pay you to come over here and spread this BS? Go suck ass on your own forum, nobody's buying it here.

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Originally Posted by porsche1600s
Assume he throttled back the load to try and replicate fps at 300 yards.



Reduced velocity test to replicate LR performance is not valid without the RPM's of full velocity.

RPM's help facilitate bullet expansion. If it were not true, some bullets would not come apart in mid air due to fast twist.

Ask Berger why their target jackets are made tougher.




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All I have to add, without reading the thread, standard tsx 225 out of 338 win mag, opened just fine twice on a caribou at just over 800 yards. First was back of lungs ribs only, second broke the back.

Both were caliber entry, both were about dime size exits on the hide.


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If slow impact velocity is a concern just go with the LRX.

If some fault the performance of a TTSX, or TSX as someone was claiming that is, at low speeds, do you also fault the performance of the others at high impact speeds? High speeds on heavy bone and you may not have much left with the others. You will have a solid bullet with the Barnes. And even if velocity slows down, it still expanded and penetrated with the others. What's not to like?


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Actually it has been proven that residual velocity (starting from a higher one) and a reduced load do about the same damage.


Specifically mentioned here on actual animals and wet newsprint.


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Originally Posted by Fotis
Actually it has been proven that residual velocity (starting from a higher one) and a reduced load do about the same damage.


Specifically mentioned here on actual animals and wet newsprint.


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I'm sure it's interesting..... smile

I will string with Bill Steiger's work and that of others dating back decades when it comes to RPM's, velocity, and bullet expansion. They found a difference. I will defer to Steigers since he developed one of the best premium hunting bullets ever made.

Tin foil bullets may be a completely different story from premium, heavy jacket hunting bullets. I don't care what happens with the squishy stuff. smile




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Originally Posted by BobinNH
Originally Posted by porsche1600s
Assume he throttled back the load to try and replicate fps at 300 yards.



Reduced velocity test to replicate LR performance is not valid without the RPM's of full velocity.

RPM's help facilitate bullet expansion. If it were not true, some bullets would not come apart in mid air due to fast twist.

Ask Berger why their target jackets are made tougher.


Berger made theirs tougher because my 7 twist 223 kept poofing the 64s on the way to the target. LOL.


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Fotis,

Thanks for posting this article. But I can't read it, even if I double click on it. Where is it found?


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Originally Posted by rost495
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Originally Posted by porsche1600s
Assume he throttled back the load to try and replicate fps at 300 yards.



Reduced velocity test to replicate LR performance is not valid without the RPM's of full velocity.

RPM's help facilitate bullet expansion. If it were not true, some bullets would not come apart in mid air due to fast twist.

Ask Berger why their target jackets are made tougher.


Berger made theirs tougher because my 7 twist 223 kept poofing the 64s on the way to the target. LOL.



You must have also been the guy who discovered the Hornady melting tip bullet thing too, huh?


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This was in a much older handloader magazine.


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Originally Posted by Ringman
Fotis,

Thanks for posting this article. But I can't read it, even if I double click on it. Where is it found?



http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/6541998/3


http://www.amazon.com/Handloader-Magazine-June-Issue-Number/dp/B008DM19BG


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http://stevespages.com/jpg/bestbullet.jpg


click on it it enlarges and you can read it

Read about the BUZZSAW effect


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And here you go!


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and another test


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Thanks.

edited to add,

I read the article and pasted it on my desk top for further reading. The Barnes "X" looked the best to me. But I no longer use them. I switched to the LRX for even more violent expansion.

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Originally Posted by Fotis
And here you go!


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Excellent info. The chart is fascinating as well. Thanks.


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