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If you shoot the right ammo, the 10 can become uncomfortable in that platform. I currently have probably six mags loaded with Privi Partizan 180 grain JHP. It exhibits pretty harsh recoil.
I find that surprising, considering PPU 10mm ammo virtually replicates .40S&W performance. It is one of the few true "10mm lite" loads still available.
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If I ever got bored with the flexibility of a 10mm, I'd buy a 9x25 Dillon barrel and keep grinning.
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If you shoot the right ammo, the 10 can become uncomfortable in that platform. I currently have probably six mags loaded with Privi Partizan 180 grain JHP. It exhibits pretty harsh recoil.
I find that surprising, considering PPU 10mm ammo virtually replicates .40S&W performance. It is one of the few true "10mm lite" loads still available. I don't know. I don't know what the ballistics are on it. I got it when I was low on 10mm ammo and that's what was available in fairly inexpensive offerings...ie 50 rds as opposed to the 20 rd. self-defense packs that are exceedingly high-dollar. I've shot a fairly wide variety of 10mm ammo including the original Norma stuff back in the 90's. This was the hardest kicking 10mm ammo I've shot. At least, that was my perception.
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..just when I start thinking again of a Glock 40 for a car gun you have to do this to me...now I have no choice. Thank you VERY VERY MUCH...Bob
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..just when I start thinking again of a Glock 40 for a car gun you have to do this to me...now I have no choice. Thank you VERY VERY MUCH...Bob I'm still surprised they didn't check with you first...big breach of etiquette on their part. Please let us know if this get the Bob stamp of approval. The G20 is looking even more interesting these days. 10mm/40 and now .38 Super...how fun!!
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I've had bad luck with Lone Wolf barrel's accuracy. The next barrel going in my G20 will be fit at Bar-Sto.
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Sent an email to my dealer today about pricing on a Glock 40...I've seen them for under $700 and if he can do as good will probably order one...and then some barrels...
Now...do I go the TruGlo TFX or a set of adjustables...
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I've had bad luck with Lone Wolf barrel's accuracy. The next barrel going in my G20 will be fit at Bar-Sto. A lot of guys have good luck with Storm Lake barrels.
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I've tried Storm Lake too. No real problems, but no noticeable increase in accuracy. The only reason I'd go with a different barrel is to get full chamber support...get rid of that little Glock "smilie" that appears on the brass when I shoot 'warm' loads...and an increase in accuracy. I've used a Kart barrel in a 1911 platform before and was very impressed. Bar-Sto is on par with Kart.
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Bar-Sto is on par with Kart. I beg to differ. So does Les Baer. Look down the bore of each and compare and the difference is amazing.
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yea, just look down the barrel and you can tell if it's a good one, LOL...
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I've had bad luck with Lone Wolf barrel's accuracy. The next barrel going in my G20 will be fit at Bar-Sto. A lot of guys have good luck with Storm Lake barrels. Storm Lake is bottom of the barrel in my experience. Sometimes you might get a good one, but it's pretty hit and miss. My complaints are with the bore and chamber, rough bores and non-concentric chamber/throat seem pretty common.
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Well Geek pushed me over the edge...ordered the 40 today. Once it gets here then I'll be getting some dies and reloading supplies...
Have wanted a 10mm for a long time and almost went Para Hunter LE and may end up with one one day anyway...
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I have had a early glock 23 with a barsto 357sig barrel. no issues. it has shot more of those than 40. I like the kkm barrels too and have bought quite a few of them. I did have the glow in the dark sights put on the 20, i never figured it for a target gun per se. I do know you can put the top of a 21 on a 20, and vice versa. there are multiple options with glocks. I haven't really warmed up to the six inch barrel on the 20 yet tho. 10 is an interesting caliber, like in a blackhawk with a long barrel. They kind of smoke. and i haven't had the urge to put a 40 barrel on the glock 20.
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Well Geek pushed me over the edge...ordered the 40 today. Once it gets here then I'll be getting some dies and reloading supplies...
Have wanted a 10mm for a long time and almost went Para Hunter LE and may end up with one one day anyway...
I just knew you'd have to have one once the Super barrels were available.
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Well Geek pushed me over the edge...ordered the 40 today. Once it gets here then I'll be getting some dies and reloading supplies...
Have wanted a 10mm for a long time and almost went Para Hunter LE and may end up with one one day anyway...
Congrats...........looking forward to the range report.
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Probably more practical from a cost standpoint to convert to 40, assuming a person shoots and keeps 40 on hand for other guns. There is also a 9mm barrel made (but it doesn't show up in the regular catalog) but I have heard mixed reviews about reliability using 9mm ammo in 10mm mags. If I want to shoot 9, I just take a 9 to the range. Here's a good article regarding shooting 40 ammo through a regular G20, http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/06/jeremy-s/40-in-a-10mm-glock/ Thanks for the link. I've had a G20 itch for quite a while, and feel one for the G40 starting to grow now. I've got a fair stash of .40S&W ammo, so this approach is appealing. An aftermarket .10mm barrel with a tighter, fully supported chamber should also make .40S&W reloads safe(r), assuming brass is well inspected and culled...........thinking only one or two reloads probably.
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Well, I had two Glock 20s. I bought a Lone Wolf slide and sent it to Bar-Sto and had a barrel fit to it. It's a lot more accurate than any of the other Lone Wolf and Storm Lake 6" offerings. I have three 6" 10mm barrels. The accuracy of those barrels paired with the Lone Wolf slide was to put it mildly, discouraging. I had already talked to one of Bar-Sto's gun smiths about fitting a custom Bar-Sto barrel to my Lone Wolf slide. They said no problem. Took about 4 months, but the final product was worth the wait. I had to shoot it in. It took a minimum of 500 rounds through it to get it to function properly. I could see where the slide and the barrel were rubbing a little more after each session. At 500 rounds it finally recoiled, ejected the spent brass, stripped one off of the magazine and went all the way into battery. I had been having to push the back of the slide to get it all the way forward and fully in battery. I have a little over 1100 rounds through it and if functions without a hiccup now, and hitting inside the scoring rings on a B27 target at 100 yards has become boring. Don't reckon I would try to shoot a game animal at 100 yards with my Glock, but I bet I could hit hog or a white tail.
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A drop in .357 Sig barrel for the Gock Model 20 would be more practical. Ammo is probably cheaper and more readily available. And it is a better round then the 38 Super, IMO. For whatever it's worth. Flame on
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A drop in .357 Sig barrel for the Gock Model 20 would be more practical. Ammo is probably cheaper and more readily available. And it is a better round then the 38 Super, IMO. For whatever it's worth. Flame on What he said. I still want to get a 357 Sig barrel, either for my 20 or 35. I bought a 9 mm conversion barrel from GTs., (for my 27) the Alpha model. I asked them if they had the 100$ model, they claimed those models where not made anymore. The alpha cost a little more but they are really nice.
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