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Once GWB hooked up with Dick Cheney it was a train wreck in the making....

Hillary vs Trump ...Hillary 44 to 41
Hillary vs Cruz ...Cruz 46.8 to 45.5
Hillary Vs Rubio... Rubio 47 to 44.5

Actually, several respected polls have shown that about 75% of the Republicans consider themselves conservative. And I would say, quite a few Libertarians share many conservative values that would not be represented by a RINO.

You have one of two options:

1. You can nominate a RINO, like we have tried multiple times, and attempt to lure the mushy middle, and get lackluster conservative turn out.

2. You can nominate a conservative, lose many of the mushy middle, have a more robust Republican turnout and possibly lure in many Libertarians.

We can argue all we want about which numbers would be bigger or smaller than other numbers but we'd be pissing in the wind because we don't know what would happen until it happens.

All I know is that in an attempt to lure in the mushy middle with people like Romney and McCain failed miserably because the base didn't get the vote out. So doing the same strategy a third time seems, well, insane.

I don't want a guy that appeals to indecisive people that don't have strong convictions. That kind of guy is gonna give up the "W" you desperately want, and then when he gets in office, we'll all complain for 4 years about how no one ever stands up to the Democrats. And those people will be the same ones that wonder why it all happened.

Talk is cheap & actions speak volumes.

I listened to his speech last night.......went on & on & on, all for a 3rd place finish.

He's never been a true conservative & I really doubt that he's now become one either.

MM

38% of Americans claim to be "Conservative" Of that 38% only about 20% have a "Conservative" voting record.

Liberals now make up about 25% of the Country.

Moderates remain the largest voting block.

It really doesn't have anything to do with how conservative or moderate the GOP voters are.

The GOP was occupied several years ago and those who did so work to put people who adhere to their instruction in office.

As a result, a large protest vote has sprung up within the party that refuses to go along with those who would use the party for its own gain.

So don't worry about Rubio.

He might win the GOP nomination, but he'll never win the general.

The only GOP candidate who has a chance of winning the general election is the candidate who has the support of the protest vote.

It's been that way for quite a while.

It was the 'conservative' that sat on their azz at home the last election.

Yep.

Twimp is taken entirely on faith by the disciples. What and who he is and has been seems to have no bearing.

And if the decision comes down to stealing votes from people who don't share my values and priorities, and simply increasing the turn out of those who do share my values and priorities, I'll take the latter every time. If we nominate someone because of their ability to get along with the people we don't agree with, we deserve every ounce of pain we receive after the election.

Yep, sitting on your hands has sure worked so far.

I'm just the messenger,...although there shouldn't need to be a messenger at this point.

There's 2 GOPs. The "pissed off" GOP and the establishment/neocon GOP.

The "pissed off" GOP is informed,...they know the score, and they're not going to vote for any establishment GOP chitbird in the general election.

I posted this here about 3 days ago. You guys tell me if he has "changed" since the Gang of 8????






Rubio urges against mass deportation as fix to immigration
By THOMAS BEAUMONT
Jan. 29, 2016 6:58 PM EST
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Republican presidential candidate Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., speaks during a interview with The... Read more

MUSCATINE, Iowa (AP) — Republican presidential hopeful Sen. Marco Rubio said Friday that if he is elected president, he will not look to deport 12 million people in the U.S. illegally, and will instead propose solutions to accommodate those who have no criminal record.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Rubio, campaigning in Iowa ahead of the state's leadoff presidential caucuses, said that the realistic approach to America's problems with illegal immigration is to round up only criminals, while finding ways to accommodate the rest.

"We're not going to round up and deport 12 million people," Rubio said, speaking on his campaign bus from eastern Iowa. "Criminals can't stay. Felons, people who are dangerous — they are not staying."

"But we're going to deal with the people that are here," he added.

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Addressing reporters later Friday, Rubio noted that the approach he sees as feasible is to administer a background check for individuals who have lived in the U.S. "for a defined period of time." If passed, provide authorization for anyone in the U.S. illegally to get a 10-year work permit.

"We're not going to force it down their throat," he said in the interview, later remarking to journalists: "You have to learn English. You have to pay a huge fine. You have to start paying taxes. You get a work permit. And that's what you'll have for at least 10 years. That's my idea."

Immigration has become a critical issue for Florida's freshman senator, who co-wrote a lengthy 2013 immigration bill that detailed a path to citizenship for many of the 11 million immigrants in the country illegally. The legislation passed in the Senate on a bipartisan vote but ended up dying in the House. Rubio has since distanced himself from the sweeping bill, saying he wants to secure the border before dealing with the millions of people living in the U.S. illegally.

At the Fox News GOP debate Thursday, Rubio and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush squared off over immigration policy. Rubio said he never supported a pathway to citizenship for people in the country illegally. Former Gov. Jeb Bush asserted that Rubio did. Rubio was challenged to defend his past statements as a candidate for Senate where he opposed "blanket amnesty," but then went on to lead a bipartisan Senate group that would have allowed people to seek citizenship after a series of other requirements.

Speaking to reporters Friday, Rubio explained that "blanket amnesty" means "anyone here would be granted legalization or citizenship" and that the American people should decide what criteria should determine who can and cannot stay.

Accusations of flip-flopping ensued throughout Thursday's debate and into Friday.

In his closing argument to Iowa voters, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz cast himself as the only true conservative who can be trusted to keep his word, especially on immigration.

At a restaurant in Ringsted, Iowa, Cruz drew sharp contrasts between Rubio and national front-runner Donald Trump.

Cruz, fighting to retake his December lead in Iowa, took a swipe at Rubio, saying he campaigned for the U.S. Senate in 2010 by opposing amnesty for immigrants living in the country illegally, but then flipped his position after being elected.

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, whose presidential campaign rests largely on how well he does in the Feb. 9 New Hampshire primary, charged both Rubio and Cruz with both changing their positions on immigration.

"Neither of them will admit it," Christie said during an appearance on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."

"America needs a Washington-to-English dictionary so they can understand what these people are talking about," Christie said. "Sen. Rubio did not tell the truth on that stage."

In 2012, Republicans concocted a brilliant electoral plan. In a race fought over healthcare, they managed to nominate the only human being in America who implemented Obamacare before President Obama did. Now that the Democrat front-runner is Hillary Clinton, the original god-mother of single-payer healthcare, Republicans are on the cusp of nominating the one man in the GOP who has long championed Marxist healthcare policies.



"We’re going to work with our hospitals. We’re going to work with our doctors. We’ve got to do something. You can’t have a — a small percentage of our economy, because they’re down and out, have absolutely no protection so they end up dying from, you know, what you could have a simple procedure or even a pill. You can’t do that. We’ll work something out. That doesn’t mean single payer. And I mean, maybe he’s got no heart. And if this means I lose an election, that’s fine, because, frankly, we have to take care of the people in our country. We can’t let them die on the sidewalks of New York or the sidewalks of Iowa or anywhere else." Donald Trump

No. He hasn't

[bleep] it I'm voting for Bernie sanders.... The top 3 republicans according to you guys are worthless... Uncle Bernie going to lead us to the promised land

So, now he calls it "accommodation" instead of amnesty.

I'll vote for Cruz or Trump, but I will NOT waste my time on Rubio.

I look at this thing like a bad marriage. You can elect Sanders, people will see what's going on, we can have a civil war, and get the divorce over with.

We can elect Cruz or Trump, and make some drastic behavioral changes, and continue the marriage.

Electing Rubio is like saying a half-azzed "sorry", and a week later, you're still stuck in a bad marriage, with nobody getting what they want, because you're too lazy to get a divorce or make behavioral changes....

I agree with that, I just think Cruz can't win in the general election.

There's someone that can't win and it's not Cruz

Hillary vs Trump ...Hillary 44 to 41
Hillary vs Cruz ...Cruz 46.8 to 45.5
Hillary Vs Rubio... Rubio 47 to 44.5

Yep so vote who you want and not what the polls say