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I have three large moulds I am trying. I normally use two cavity moulds and just set them on the pot but these are bug four and five cavity brass and aluminium moulds and I an having a hard time getting them hot enough to cast.

So, my question is how do you heat your moulds and what is the temperature you want to get them.


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I use an electric hot plate and keep mine in the 600-650 degree range depending on alloy,# of cavities and size of bullets I'm casting. Saves time and reduces the cull count immensely.


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Kind of what I was thinking of trying. These are all 45 moulds and are huge. Thanks


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On mom's electric stove I set the eye on 2 maybe 2 1/2 while the lead is coming to temp.

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I picked up a hot plate at a yard sale cheap and it's been one of the best investments I've had.


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I use to hot plates to get any moisture from the mould out as the alloy comes up to temp.
Dunk the mould in up to temp alloy; pulling up to check until lead rolls off the mould (usually about eight to ten seconds), begin casting.

Four and five cavity moulds should often need to set a sequence and once up to temp stay hotter and set longer than any two cavity mould of the same material.
When using brass or iron with aluminum moulds, I cast twice in aluminum for once in the brass/iron.

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Originally Posted by Creeker
On mom's electric stove I set the eye on 2 maybe 2 1/2 while the lead is coming to temp.

That's what I do - set it on the burner...

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Hot plate will be there Tuesday from Amazon. New 20 bottom pour lead pot will be delivered Wednesday. Fifty pounds of softer lead delivered last night. smile

I wish I knew someone around here who has a hardness tester and could test some of my bullets. I would like to know just how hard they really are.


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I float my molds on top of the molten lead until it falls away cleanly, then start casting. The first few dumps I don't even look at and when they are filling properly I'll start heating the second mold.


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Originally Posted by Scott F
Hot plate will be there Tuesday from Amazon. New 20 bottom pour lead pot will be delivered Wednesday. Fifty pounds of softer lead delivered last night. smile

I wish I knew someone around here who has a hardness tester and could test some of my bullets. I would like to know just how hard they really are.


I have a tester Scott, Send them to me I would be happy to help you out.



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The Lee Hardness tester is a good investment.

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The hot plate was a great investment for me. Especially for the multi-cavity moulds.

I've toyed with the idea of getting a hardness tester but still use the thumbnail method an old bullet caster showed me 30 years ago. A thumbnail of normal hardness will easily dig into soft lead, 5-8 BNH, will lightly mark WW lead, 11-12 BNH and will not mark linotype, 20+ BNH. I know this is not exact
but will get you close on an undetermined alloy.


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I can scratch it but not much. Sounds like I am in the 11-12 range. Thanks mart.


I lee hardness tester is on my wish list but I have a lot of wish list to wade through.


I'll take you up on that off er paul. Do you by any chance shoot and 45 cal. I would me happy to send some powder coated for you to play with.


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Sounds like WW material to me or an alloy of the same hardness as wheel weights. Like I said, it's not exact but it gets me close when I find an ingot or old batch of bullets I forgot to mark.

You'll definitely know linotype when you run a thumbnail over it. It's like running your thumbnail over glass. It just won't mark at all.


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Much of it is 7% tin, 93% lead.

I do have some wheel weight and will try a comparison.

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I cast wheel weights as is. At moderate velocities, say under 1200 fps, they are hard enough. Above that, I drop them from the mould into a pail of water. My 45 Colt loads are mostly 650 - 800 fps or so. My 405 grain 45/70 bullets go into the water, even though I usually keep the velocity under 1350 or so. No problems with leading on either.

The 45/70 bullets hardly deform hitting the rock fines pile (tailings) and a bud of mine figured the water quenching likely gave them a hardness of about 20-22. They work well, and are great plinking bullets.

Gueßsing you are casting for old slab sides, so you velocity is likely under a grand. You should be good to go.


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I set my 4 cavity NOEs and 6 cavity lees on top of the pot, and use the dip test to tell if they're hot enough to begin. I just pour, dump the cold bullets back in the pot with the sprue, and repour immediately. I dump the first several back into the pot without even looking at them. As soon as the wrinkles disappear, I start casting. I tend to run my molds fairly hard, using long sessions with 1 or 2 molds only. Since I water drop, I'm pulling bullets as soon as the sprue visibly cools, dumping them, and pouring again.

I used to worry about bullet hardness, till I started powder coating. Now I don't care (for pistols anyway). My preference is to use a cheaper nearly all lead alloy with sufficient tin for fillout.

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what about brass moulds-what temps should they be heated to? i know warpage can be an issue.

i've got a brass 2-cavity 45/70 mold on order from accurate and don't want to do anything stupid to damage it.


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Originally Posted by Scott F
I can scratch it but not much. Sounds like I am in the 11-12 range. Thanks mart.


I lee hardness tester is on my wish list but I have a lot of wish list to wade through.


I'll take you up on that off er paul. Do you by any chance shoot and 45 cal. I would me happy to send some powder coated for you to play with.

Have you tried that charcoal artist pencil scratch test?

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/archive/index.php/t-75455.html

Somewhere in that thread there is a link to a chart.


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I know about it but I have never tried it. Think I will get the Lee tester when thingscalm down with me son.


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