Because aluminum framed semi-autos with precise lockwork and complicated designs (that are difficult to detail strip) for combat swimmers (who swim in SALT WATER) was never a good idea.
Of all the pistols out there currently the Glock makes the most sense for military service. Once the VP9 and Walther PPQ are more proven, my opinion may change, but for now it's really hard to beat Glock. They're cheap, reliable, accurate enough, easy to fix, easy to keep running, light weight, and thin. Kinda hard to beat.
for once we agree. If you cannot kill it with a Glock, you should have your carbine ready. There was no estrogen like "how if feels in my hand" involved in this decision.
for once we agree. If you cannot kill it with a Glock, you should have your carbine ready. There was no estrogen like "how if feels in my hand" involved in this decision.
That imperative has always rubbed me the wrong way, too.
I bet ya'll have seen this video but I found it a few months ago, I was surprised the frame performed as well as it did.
I've seen that before. The 18 (or 17 with auto sear) is an unlikely choice, though, as a standard military issue sidearm. Meltdowns are, therefore, not a great concern.
The contract with Sig was up and the Gen3 Glock 19 was already in supply chain with SF and MARSOC. The G19 has the capacity of the P226 with the size off the P239, so it replaced two guns with one gun. That combined with the weapons already in th e supply chain made for an easy choice.
The contract with Sig was up and the Gen3 Glock 19 was already in supply chain with SF and MARSOC. The G19 has the capacity of the P226 with the size off the P239, so it replaced two guns with one gun. That combined with the weapons already in th e supply chain made for an easy choice.
This makes perfect sense, the 19/23 platform also being viable for applications where the pistol is concealed.
Direct Impingement is the Fart Joke of military rifle operating systems. ⓒ
I heard it at a gun "lgs" and wondered if it was true and what was the reason for the switch from Sig P229's?
Prez Trump is going to insist the SEALs switch to an American-made pistol. Gonna' happen about three months after he gets Mehico to pay for that 15ft-high border concrete wall.
I heard it at a gun "lgs" and wondered if it was true and what was the reason for the switch from Sig P229's?
Prez Trump is going to insist the SEALs switch to an American-made pistol. Gonna' happen about three months after he gets Mehico to pay for that 15ft-high border concrete wall.
If Glock supplies the Military strictly from their US factory, that would solve the issue.
I just cant wait to trade a spare G19 to some Mall Ninja for their "Mk25". Once Glock decides to stamp an anchor on the remaining gen3 slides, they should sell for a premium.
Of all the pistols out there currently the Glock makes the most sense for military service. Once the VP9 and Walther PPQ are more proven, my opinion may change, but for now it's really hard to beat Glock. They're cheap, reliable, accurate enough, easy to fix, easy to keep running, light weight, and thin. Kinda hard to beat.
……..while I've developed a real fondness for and have been carrying a G19 quite a bit lately----for all of the above reasons that you've mentioned, I kinda think that the Sig 320 would be an even better choice----it's more of a "component gun" than the G19 which is a big plus for mass armory work and the military supply chain logistically. Price might be the only downside, but with a huge Gov't. contract, I'm guessing that Sig would be competitive.
I'm just delighted that they're getting away from a DA/SA gun either Sig or Beretta or anything else.
Last edited by gmoats; 03/08/16.
The blindness from subjectivity is indistinguishable from the darkness of ignorance.