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Anyone know anything about these

Put me down as a no...

Well I looks to be well made and comes with different rod tips....it was in a pawn shop with a Ross reel....I bought it for my nephew....

They make a number of different models... most run to the aggressive, very fast side of things with a lot of power. For a newer caster over-lining would probably help by reducing the need for perfect timing.

They are very good rods, especially for the money, with an outstanding and fully transferable warranty. You could do a lot worse!

The Ross reel is the weak point...

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Look for it in their rod tests from different years.

By over lining... You mean go up a line size.. I does feel stiff..

The SA GPX line is a 1/2 line size heavy and works well for stiff rods. I have heard good things about echo rods but try and only buy made in the USA fly fishing gear if I can.

Yes, going up one weight on the line will make the rod bend a little deeper giving you more leeway in your timing. As someone else noted there are lines made a half-weight heavy as they come. I am not a fan of them in general. If you need the extra weight you need the extra weight and a half step is not usually enough for short casting improvements.

Obviously, the more line you have in the air the more it will weigh, and quickly...

What weight and model is it?

It is called an echo2...
Why don't you like Ross...? They seem fine and the fly shops brag them up...don't own one myself I have lampson but have considered ross...

Ahhh...the Echo 2 is a dandy rod for big fish. It is primarily designed for saltwater and big fish where a lot of serious lifting is expected. They lay extra carbon fibers in the bottom of the rod to increase strength for lifting.

It weighs a little extra because of the fibers. They do not make any light rods in this model that I remember and several of the models are over 9'.

I took one to Patagonia last year at this time for Jurassic Lake. The trout were huge and the wind fierce... It is not a beginner's rod. Overlining by two weights would not be too much for newer casters and it will handle it.


Ross reels of old were pretty decent... then they got cute and started "engineering" some "reel" winners. Now they are basically a click and pawl with minimal drag capacity and short lives.

Lamson, by way of comparison, has identical guts in every model and they work without wearing out. We do brutal things to reels on a regular basis, and the Lamsons just keep ticking along. I have and use at least a dozen different makes and models of reels from Hatch, Hardy, Lamson, Ross, SA, TFO, Fin-Nor, Sage, Loop, Orvis, Abel, and more I have forgotten right now... new Ross reels would not rate consideration even at the bargain prices you can find them at lately.

I have smoked a number of Ross reels in a day.

Thank for all the info looks like me a rod made for the Pacific NW or Alaska ...if fishing for cutthroat there is always a chance of a steelhead..
I guess not the best rod to give my nephue to learn on but Its too late now...
The Ross has a disc type drag not a click..older one I guess seems fine..good to hear about lamson I bought one for my son and liked it so well I had to havnt one.

It is a great rod for salmon and steelhead. What weight is it?

IIRC the only disc drag Ross reel is the Flystart, a very entry-level reel.

Rick Bin bought a Lamson at my suggestion and then another... before he knew it they had multiplied in the closet and he had about 30 of them... be careful!!!

Its a 4 wt so not a steelhead rod by any means but it feels stiffer than most
Yea I'm a sucker for American made quality...I think the boy will be fine with it as he doesn't have anything to compair to...he moved to Utah from Nebraska and will be fishing the bear and Logan rivers...neither big water but good fishing...

Very cool! I did not realize they even made a 4 wt in the 2. Another point is the tips that come with the rod are different. One is super fast, stiff, while the other is softer and easier to cast.

One tip is labeled A the other D...does that mean there is B&C also...
Funny thing is I never herald of them or seen them for sale...where are they sold?

One tip is labeled A the other D...does that mean there is B&C also...
Funny thing is I never herald of them or seen them for sale...where are they sold? It might make the perfict motorcycle rod...

The A tip is for "accuracy" and it is the softer, easier tip to cast. You probably already guessed the D is for "distance" and it is the faster tip.

They are carried in lots of true fly shops, but not the box stores. They are not expensive. I like them a lot.

No B&C tips...

Rods are like cars you need to test drive them to find the make and model you prefer. Hard to do in a pawn shop. Ross makes some good reels, some not so good, as does Lamson. I have a couple of older Ross Gunnison G-2 reels that have held up for 20 years. As well as a newer Lamson reel. And they all have been reliable.

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