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#11074524 03/26/16
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From the "Muzzle Loading" forum

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Don't ruin an ML by using anything but smokeless powder.


Swampy's re-born ?

I AM going to post any of my own further "Muzzle Loading" equipment news, or project related esotrica,... HERE on the Campfire BPCR forum.
I'd encourage anybody else running BP through a flinter, or cap ignited long OR SHORT gun to do the same.

Would welcome any disagreements, about so doing,....not that it's going to make one goddam bit of difference, and don't expect sugar cookies and cocoa response to any drivel indicating that this is a mis guided thrust.....

How to run smokeless pressures without a brass cartridge case has NOTHING to do with what the term MUZZLE LOADING actually means. It's BASICALLY an excercise in going around one' azz to get to one's elbow.
It's also very DEEPLY embedded contemporary "lore" in some dirtbag anti 2A zones.
....can't BELIEVE how degenerate these regulation embracing a-wholes have become.

So,....let's hear it.

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And the diseased spavined nag they rode in on ?

....yeah, we COULD go there.

I'd rather not,...just calling out the fact that terms, and phrases once held dear as MEANING something simple, straightforward, and accepted CAN and DO change.

What some folk, God bless em' are calling "Muzzle loading" is incomprehensible,...

....a trip to a weird planet,...one that bathes in BLASPHEMY.

This place is ABOUT Black Powder,...all I'm doing is bringing my muzzle loading back to where it belongs, as far as I can see.

....The HELL else am I supposed to go ?

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I know the idea of the whole "in-line muzzleloader" trend is to allow longer range shooting, in "muzzleloading seasons". I guess I might consider it, if I was in an area where the "muzzleloader" season was much more desirable than the regular rifle season. Otherwise, I just don't see the point of them.


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The areas where "muzzle loader seasons" are more desirable seem to be DEMOGRAPHICALLY poor, on many levels,...take note of all the states where the 'expertise' drizzles and drips from.
The equipment's SOUL, if it had ANY, would be that of a back alley shyster / lawyer, dressed head to toe in synthetic plastic.
Certainly not that of an American sportsman,in wool.

As far as "Longer Range Shooting" goes,...there's a whole world of embarrassing realities one might have to confront, in denigrating fine BP fueled ML rifles.

Back later,...gotta' go check the level in my ML soaking bucket.

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Otherwise, I just don't see the point of them.


Pat I got one when my eyes got bad and they are easier to scope. Although mine has the capability, I do not shoot 150 gr. of powder and try to make it a long distance gun. I limit my shots on deer to around 100 yds or less, and have killed several deer with it. When I first started with the black powder, it was with a Hawkins and it was a bonus deer. Not so now as your tags are equal between muzzle-loader or center-fire. Archery is the only way to pick up an extra deer. Limits are more liberal now and I seldom fill my tags, just shoot what I want to eat. miles


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Some years back, faced with ever increasing strength of prescription for glasses, I was a bit depressed to look at open/leaf sights on a number of rifles gathering dust. An epiphany was had in the form of peeps/aperture sights and oddly enough, a trip back to the beginning.

In the beginning, well, not exactly the beginning, we had round balls and patches, black powder and loooong barrels. One of my loony friends conned me into a Pennsylvania style flinter with a 42" barrel. Fine blade and a shallow notch. Well, put that front sight out a bit longer than is common today and chitt happens...

Offhand, 50 yards, the 1 o'clock strike on the left target was a casual fouling shot.

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Thanks Dan, your post pulled me back from the edge. I was just eyeballing my 1860 Army and a can of H110...

Strangely enough, most of my irons have evolved into peeps in recent years too.

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[Linked Image]Flintrifle by Rick Mulhern, on Flickr

The above delivers this at 100 yards:

[Linked Image]Hawken Flintlock Rifle by Rick Mulhern, on Flickr

100 grs. KIK 2F with 490 Hornady swaged ball, Canola oil patch lube cut at the muzzle, and Goex 4F pan powder. I'm proud I bought it!!


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Good move, Cross.

My son at age 8, three gold medals and a silver in the teenage class, state shoot. .50 cal. Hawken round ball. The pictured target was at 100 yards, prone, with a brisk cross wind. Beat the men's winner by one point.

He's now a 48 y/o Army NG LTC, combat veteran of Iraq. He can still shoot.

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