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Nosler's load data shows those numbers, but with a 26" Wiseman barrel.
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Think I will load some 140 AB's to 3000 fps and run them to 600 for yucks. I need to find out how pitifully inadequate the 270 is past 300 yards.
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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A 140 at 2900+ and a 150 at 2800+ 25" barrel? Never owned that long a barrel on anything in my life. Both Big Game and RL-17 will get you there...
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7/08 and 270 Win. make too much sense. There is not much to debate about their suitability for most N American big game. It appears folks here prefer the margins more than these boring chamberings. I have said before that no one that I hunt with has ever heard of the cartridges that I hunt with. I end up describing the 280ai as somewhere between a 270 and a 7 Mag and a 6.5 cal variant as sort of between a 243 and a 7/08. Most folks around here end up buying their son or daughter a 7/08. Often they end up hunting with their son or daughter's 7/08 and liking it.
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2960 - two 700's chopped to 21" - using Varget 140's
Bludog - what bullet was used on the Elk?
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How popular is it "suppose" to be? Don't be hate'n on the output of society, that is deeply leftest trait. . I alway thought the 7mm-08 was fairly popular, obviously not in the top 5 or 10 but certainly not in any danger. I've always been a 270 fanatic and never really had the desire for one.
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I was in a very good shop in Fort Kent, Maine yesterday. They have a wall of ammunition, actually a very surprising selection. Pretty much anything you can think of in multiples. Lots of odd ball stuff also 250 Sav.; 32 Special, 35 Remington, 303 Brit; 8 mm Mauser. They had 1 box of 7/08 and when I commented that it must be pretty popular, the owner said "no, it doesn't sell."
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I was in a very good shop in Fort Kent, Maine yesterday. They have a wall of ammunition, actually a very surprising selection. Pretty much anything you can think of in multiples. Lots of odd ball stuff also 250 Sav.; 32 Special, 35 Remington, 303 Brit; 8 mm Mauser. They had 1 box of 7/08 and when I commented that it must be pretty popular, the owner said "no, it doesn't sell."
. Northern Maine deer hunters are too practical to get bogged down with a lot of gack.....
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I was in a very good shop in Fort Kent, Maine yesterday. They have a wall of ammunition, actually a very surprising selection. Pretty much anything you can think of in multiples. Lots of odd ball stuff also 250 Sav.; 32 Special, 35 Remington, 303 Brit; 8 mm Mauser. They had 1 box of 7/08 and when I commented that it must be pretty popular, the owner said "no, it doesn't sell."
. Northern Maine deer hunters are too practical to get bogged down with a lot of gack..... Very true.
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You can always tell a Maine hunter. However you can't tell him much on anything.
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Wiki says 7x57 - designed 1893 6.5x55 - 1891 Therefore the Swede is MO Betta! Are you living in a Pioneer homestead house? Jerry I did not see the 7/08 or 270 on this scoreboard: The 1999 British Long- Range ... 10 rounds into 4.4 inches at 1,000 yards. Factory Tikka in a round from 1891. Muzzle Velocity is but One dimension.....simpleton.
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You can always tell a Maine hunter. However you can't tell him much on anything. That is also very true.
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A 140 at 2900+ and a 150 at 2800+ 25" barrel? I get 2820fps with 145 Speers and a book load of H-4350 from my 22 inch Montana. The 7-08 seems very popular around here. I've been using one on & off since the '80's and keep coming back to it because I think it's the perfect whitetail cartridge. [img:left] [/img] My son, also born on July 8 loves his LVSF/TI in 7-08. [img:left] [/img]
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I get 2820fps with 145 Speers and a book load of H-4350 from my 22 inch Mo ntana I think the 7-08 is one of the most sensible BG cartridges around. I just don't think it's a 270. But I do agree, it might be "the" perfect whitetail round. Your 140 speed is what I've gotten with my various 22" 7-08's(including my Montana). Great round, I just never found I could get much past 2,700 with a 150, including with RL17 or Big Game. But I'm not a hot-rodder.
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I get 2820fps with 145 Speers and a book load of H-4350 from my 22 inch Montana.
The 7-08 seems very popular around here. I've been using one on & off since the '80's and keep coming back to it because I think it's the perfect whitetail cartridge.
Yes...the perfect whitetail cartridge. Another gun writer myth that got started in the 80's and I sort of fell for back then...until I figured out the standards were pretty arbitrary and could not figure how gaining or losing 10-20 gr of bullet and 100-200 fps of velocity,moved a cartridge from "perfection" to "also ran". The notion struck me as absurd.And still does.... But rifle loonies love to create niches.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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2960 - two 700's chopped to 21" - using Varget 140's
Bludog - what bullet was used on the Elk? Which bullet out of curiosity?
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Very impressive - as was the deer I dumped at 400 yds using my Ruger #1 in 6BR - good thing that deer had not read Ballistics 101, it might have run off knowing the Amax was launched at 2,850. Same rifle shot .398 for 3-shots at 330 yds....but a Ruger #1 is not an accurate rifle Makes me think of the 30-60 million buffalo that fell to Sharps rifle w/Iron Sights using rounds spouting half the MV of modern rounds. Some today use 20x and higher zoom glass and fire rounds 3,400 MV. What is adequate or inadequate is most often not dictated by the round used. Nothing replaces operator skill. MV no more changes shooter skill than a Big Truck changes what the driver is trying to compensate.
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First choice for myself on Deer would be the 7mm-08 followed by the .308W. 10 or so of those big heavy .270's or .30-06 rounds can weigh a person down by days end. Take up more room also and don't kill any better. Gotta be rational about this stuff.
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Muzzle Velocity is but One dimension.....simpleton.
? ? ? ? ? ? You must be in an oblivious cloud! myopic brother. Why have Gun Writers, Hunters, Gun Manufacturers, Powder Manufacturers, & Ammo manufacturers striven to produce components, ammunition, & firearms that will shoot.. a.faster.. b.flatter &.. c.to impact harder? ? ? I refuse to "settle". Higher Velocity gives us at least 3 advantages. 1. 2. 3. care to guess? If you know those 3 advantages and choose to ignore/refuse to avail yourself, then you have settled. Jerry
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