Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles Why no love for 6.8 SPC

With all of the What deer round for my recoil senisitive kid or wife and the popularity of the AR platform along with the surge in suppressors why is there no love for the 6.8 SPC. Looks like it would be a good choice for deer and hogs in any of the above scenarios?

Don't have either at this point, but the 6.5 Grendel eats the 6.8's lunch pretty much across the board for varmints, medium game, and especially as a long-range cartridge. It fits the same platforms as well. A fast-twist .223 also surpasses the 6.8 for a lot of purposes, I think, and has mountains of available rifles and cheap ammo and components.

All that doesn't mean the 6.8 isn't worth owning and using, just that there's better stuff out there. It probably doesn't help that the 6.8 is a stubby little number that looks kind of dumpy compared to the sexy Grendel.

Another issue for me is that 6.8 brass is an odd duck, and given what we've been through the last few years, feeding one could become problematic in a pinch.

Screw the AR platform...I wish there were bolt guns available in the 6.8!

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The 6.8 is a good choice for the scenarios that you talk about.
PSA often runs Federal gold dot ammo for $9.99 per 20
Runs 2800 FPS or more out of a 16 inch barrel.

Hornady 120 Grain SST loads run about 2450 from a 16inch barrel.
The Hornady Grendel 123 grain SST load is slower than the 6.8 out to 200 yards
and both loads are about the same at 300 yards.

In my opinion both are 200 to max 250 Yard deer cartridges.

IF a man can be satisfied with a 250 yard capable cartridge in a short, lightweight,low recoil rifle then I think that the 6.8 is a good hunting cartridge/rifle.

I have 2 6.8 rifles as I like the concept of short ,lightweight and low recoil.

I have a IWT 16 inch 6.8 uppers on an Aero Precision Gen 2 Lower.With a Leupold 3-9x40 VX1 scope in An Aero Precision scope mount AND loaded 10 round magazine the weight is 7 pounds 7 ounces.

I built an upper with the same components but used an 18 Inch ARP 6.8 barrel and the weight is 7.9 ounces Loaded.

Looking forward to trying both out on deer this upcoming season.

To learn more about the 6.8 and other AR calibers go to 68forums and you will find a ton of info there including a lot of bullet test on hogs ,deer and various other media using a lot of different bullets.

Amen brother. I really wish I had bought one of the 700 Lightweight "Tacticals" (as much as I detest that word) when they were closed out by one of my distributors for under $600...

I thought CZ made (or makes) one in the 527. Remington tried to sell them but without a whole lot of luck, I think. TC sold Contenders, but also sells 7-30 Waters, which is similar.

It might fit in a Vixen. That would be handy.

Edit: Checked GB. No bolt guns, just ARs and Contender barrels.

I built one on a mini mauser years ago. the young lad who used it killed deer without much fuss.

You and me both! been looking for one!

What's the standard 6.8 twist? Wondering if you could run 130 grainers in a single shot.

If you build it...................

I believe Most are saying 1/11 twist is best for 6.8.
A ton of Information on 68forums.com

Probably because it sucks.




Dave

Exactly!

Isn't the 6.8 just a gay 270?

120 SSTs with a BC of .400 and MV of 2600ish will definitely make short work of medium game out to 300 with ease.

I really like the 6.8 and find it just as useful as my 308 for deer.

Didn't Ruger make a bolt version a year or two?



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http://www.ruger.com/news/2009-01-14f.html

Are you getting the 2600 from factory loads and 16 inch barrel?

You DO know that it's a 270-Lite, don't you?

Back when Ruger brought out the hawkeye compacts in 6.8 I bought one for the boy thinking it would be a perfect starter deer rifle. He's eight now and killed three deer with it this past season. I was right!

Edit to add that I did have the chamber reamed to SPC II for mo' betta' ammo choices.

Redundancy springs eternal.....

gayER 270!

No problem...

I built one a while ago for a friend. He really likes it and says the results on game are impressive...like a low-recoil lightning bolt.

The build is cheap and very easy to do.

I picked up a Wal Mart ADL and a few boxes of factory rounds in 7-08 and dumped out half the powder.

I told him it was an improved 6.8.

I named it the 6.8 GPC.

I didn't tell him what the "g" stands for.

Should be labeled the 6-point-worthless.




Dave

The 6.8 is an excellent performer on deer size game. Lots of hunting bullets in the appropriate weight for the cartridge too.

It's a perfect round for recoil sensitive hunters and a great choice for youth hunters. It needs to be in a bolt gun...and someday it will happen again.

Im not a Savage fan, but the Lady Hunter is a perfect platform for the cartridge -- shorter LOP and a raised cheek piece to help get shooters properly behind the scope.

That seems a little negative.




GFY

I thought you quite drinking.




I have had a couple 6.8 spec II. They kill very well to four hundred yards. The 110 Accubonds are wicked. Lot of special forces guys that can write their own ticket loved the round.

I think I'd rather play with a Grendal, personally. My 6.8 AR shot okay, but nothing to get me excited

Howa Mini would be a candidate as well.

It can be done easily on the savage or rem 783. That is if ptg ever sends the 6.8 bolt face I ordered for the 783. Only been 2 years...

That one's getting the Grendel soon.

After this thread got going, I looked around and found the ammo stuation was better than I recalled it being before, so now I have to say it looks like the Grendel's only real advantage is at long range. I can't recall reading about any tack-driver 6.8s, but that may be related to the rifles involved.

For now, a Contender looks like the easiest way into a non-tactical 6.8.

Darrik,

When are the Howa Mini's in 6.5 Grendel going to hit the shelves?

Thanks,

Jerry

While a bolt rifle would be fine it seems to me that the AR platform would be great for anyone youngsters as well.
Adjustable stock,Light weight,short,and recoils less than a bolt rifle in the same caliber,especially with the mid length gas system.

You didn't miss out on anything. I bought one for the exact reasons everyone here thinks it would be a great round for. I got for my son who was 7 at the time and it was a dog accuracy wise. I tried every possible bullet/powder combo and it was not stellar with anything. Turns out a 308 loaded with h4198 and the 125 nosler BT is a better route to go. I ended up selling the one I had and all the brass and dies. maybe great in a ar, but was a dog for me in a bolt gun.

I have a lightweight 6.8 SPC with an 18.5" barrel built on a 700 in an Edge Mt. Rifle stock that will be my kids first deer gun. It is such a great WT rifle with little recoil, low blast, and thumps deer. I have shot a bunch with it, then my sister borrowed it a few years ago for hunting and I have to beg her just to "borrow" it back when I want to take it out! She loves it as well. The cartridge is dynamite for 250 yards and less but really is fun to hunt with.

6.8 is just more efficient than the Grendel in barrels under 22". Yes, the Grendel beats it past 300, due to BCs and longer barrels, but for 300 and in in a lightweight, handy package, the 6.8 makes a better case. The issue with the 6.8 (initially) was Remington totally screwing up the case/chamber/twist.....hence the specII and 1:11. Sure, there's others in the class, but few with factory load options and equal performance vs recoil vs blast.

I was looking debating on what cartridge I wanted a compact CZ 527 chambered in for a light weight deer hunting rifle. Cartridges I considered included the 6MM PPC, 6.5 Grendel, 6.8 SPC and the simple 7.62 x 39. While all are good choices and only one or to rifles to be put together I went with the 7.62x39 for simplicity and the Grendel for all around top performance at all distances I would consider shooting a deer.

The Grendel is the rifle I am most passionate about truth be told. 6.8 SPC is a fine choice also. Grendel is simply better in my eyes.

That factory Hornady 120 SST load is perfection to me. Even out of a 12" barrel. I have never lost a deer or hog with it.

Soon! We should have some in May -- or at least that's what I was told!

I agree 100%. In fact, that's the platform I set up for my eight year old son. Recoil is mitigated, the stock adjusts to perfection and the vertical grip really makes is easy for them to reach the trigger.

It worked well for him!

Yup. Brian Pearce is a big fan as well and has written a couple of articles abut the round.

The abundance of accurate 6.5 slugs alone is a big draw for me. Hope the minis that Darrick's getting in are priced right for an old fat man on a fixed income!

Hoping that crate has some 7.62x39s in it, too.

Suppose this may be best to entertain the idea of the Grendel bolt action in a new thread. I do look forward to reports back on how folks are liking their Howa Grendel's This fall. Some talk of the Grendel or the 6.8 SPC being guns for the ladies or those short in stature or elderly.


Well I never felt under gunned in the last fall deer hunting. Perhaps I fall in the category of elderly as I am over 50.

There is roughly a (1)gr "difference" in case capacity,between a fhuqking POS 6.8SPC and a Grendel...though COAL benefits are ALL Grendel,as is BC,drop,drift and Oooomph,along with vastly superior brass. Hint.

In a Krunchenticker I'd want to be 243LBC/6Grendel,call it what you like. ASC 105 smooches are easily arranged and a .530BC at 2500fps+ in a 18" rifle gas spout,do not suck. Hint.

Things can only get better in a boltgun.

NOONE with a single fhuqking clue,would touch a 6.8SPC with a 10-foot fhuqking pole,over the 243LBC. It shoots much better boolits faster,with less recoil,less drop,less drift and for less jingle,as 105 Hornie HPBT's are under 20 Clams a can.

In a bolt gun,I'd rather drive a 1-8" or faster 270 with 105's at 2500fps+,in a less than 20" spout. Logistics alone,nearly makes it free. I'll "suffer" the slight subtension change of perspective on the windshield,to circumvent the 6.5Grendel's case capacity and BC advantages,while shooting for less than half the price. I'd want the 243LBC there,over Grendel or SPC and by lightyears...but it's 270 as an EASY 1st choice.

Factoring Krunchenticker COAL confines,it's 243LBC all the way,as the 270/105's can't play there.

Schitty boolits,in schitty case designs is tough to swoon.

Hint.

In the case size and ar platform the 6.8 is the hunting king. Only a paper puncher is interested in cases that hold 30 grns of powder for anything past 500 yards and 500 is pushing it. Your wows of shimming bases on Montanas in 6x45 to shoot 1500 yards entertain soft headed want2bees. You and I both know it. Ps you suck at life so spend the day hiding from people and play with your guns sugar tits.

Great pic of your son and his buck !
Tell him I said congratulations.

How about some particulars like load,range,bullets performance etc ?

Thanks

I got bored and built a 6.8SPC cause I kept seeing boxes of unshot ammunition for it at the local academy sports. I have mixed feeling on it. I have a couple boxes of 95 grain TTSX bullets I am trying this year, will report back after deer season. Nothing I shoot is over 150 yards mostly here where I hunt in GA. Frankly an old DD 5.56 loaded with a max load of TAC and 62 grain TSX seems about the same based on limited "harvests" with the 6.8.

Is that with both using the Barnes Bullets ?
If so does the 5.56 blow just as big a hole as the Barnes?

fredrica,

Your sheer and utter fhuqking CLUELESSNESS,is never not hilarious...due the fact that you are doing your BEST! You poor poor(literally) STUPID Fhuqk.

Now mebbe cite the "magic" boolit,that grants you the Delusion that the 6.8 is worth a fhuqk,let alone "king". Be certain to not let Physics,BC,Drop,Drift,COAL and Impact Velocity skew your Imagination and it's Pretend,as that Fantasy collides with Reality. Hint.

Nextly,cite how "your" ammo selection,mounting solution,glass choice and "all" of your "experience","knowledge" and "results",granted such a grandiose scoop of Dumbfhuqktitude. Spare NO "details". Hint.

I'm laffin' so hard,I'm fhuqking CRYIN'!!!!!!!

Wow +P+++!

Laffin'!















jimmyp,

Ask fredrica for some 6.8 Splendid Beastie pics...it's funnier than fhuqk!(grin)

TAC has never shown me anything in a herd of SAAMI 223 bolt guns and Krunchentickers,with a single offering from 40 to 75grs. That whether MilSpec or greater COAL(ASC's and cut away P-Mags). 'Course it's not worth a fhuqk in any of my 223AI's either and I've only shot it in 7",7.7",8",9",10",12" and 14" twist rates.

Tough not to love Lever' fueled 75 Hornie HPBT's at 2800fps+ in a 18" middie ala ASC's. Hear that?!? fredrica is Googlin' it.

Laffin'!

500yds is REALLY "far".

Laffin'!

Sugar tits, Those aren't tears they're drips of sweat from your fat diabetic forehead.

Oh and 130 bergers at a oehler tested 60,000psi and 2620ft per sec seem to work well. In a 16" tube hell 18 or 20 would be lights out hint.
Was it before you read applied ballistics for the long range shooter or after that the 223 with 75 AMAX's trumped the 257 ratherby. It's cute you are so on top of what most knew when you were still trying to figure out how to post pic on the fire. You Keep looking over your shoulder and I'm out in front. Ps you suck at life it's y people are so stupid.
Now hold back the dad is that you.


My ammunition selection was pretty good only seen about 85,000 rounds a day hint.

universal receivers typically are void of a scope. But all of my 6.8 had Leupold 1.5x5 or mark 4 on them they went with the kimbers got bored cut them loose. Still have a mountain of brass and bullets just in case some day the 338 edge gets old. Must suck being to poor to feed a real gun and to small to burp more that ten round with out recoil taking a toll.

fredrica,

I'll feign my GREAT "surprise",that one "conquest" pic of "The King" of Krunchenticker cartridges in "action" upon a Splendid Beastie,was simply MUCH too much for you to manage. Just what were the fhuqking "odds"? Laffin'!

I'd prolly be really hard pressed to summon magnificence ala a .378" casehead in extrapolation...you poor poor STUPID Fhuqk. Laffin'!

"Tell" me "more" about the 223AI,because as I recall I've only built 13 of 'em and am prolly sandbagging. Hint.

The 257 Weatherby is sumptin' "new" to me too and I doubt that I've built much more than 5 of them. PLEASE use as much Imagination and Pretend that you can muster,to quantify your version of "knowledge","experience" and "results". Don't "forget" pics. Laffin'!

Mebbe dangle some 6.8/130 Booger pics,muse twist rate and COAL and try to "convince" yourself that you've a first fhuqking clue. Then add some "particulars" like base/rings/glass that you use to extoll these fabricated "virtues",if only to meld your Delusions fully. Laffin'!

You are certainly a Trend Setter...if'n you factor Fhuqking STUPIDITY as being a "trend". Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart,you Amazingly Stupid Clueless Fhuqk.

Laffin'!