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Saw a demo, heard the spiel. Barring a mandate from POTUS, would you buy one if it was just another option? I've re-posted the Obama story. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-tech-despite-concerns.html?intcmp=hpbt1
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Possibly.
I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand.
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Me solum relinquatis
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You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Is the president's secret service detail using smart technology weapons? When they are, I'll look into it.
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"What I was saying is if my kin folk 400 years ago had guns, we wouldn�t be having this conversation. I�m in favor of guns and encourage everyone I know to have them because the last time we didn�t have them we were abused.�
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Only if its an Etronix 700 I'm surprised this idea hasn't made a comeback. Electronic costs have plummeted and a microswitch for the trigger would allow for some really innovative designs like a bullpup hunting rifle.
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I haven't even bought a S&W revolver since they added the internal lock. It adds nothing to the functionality of the firearm. Same with any smart gun technology.
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Not in this life, and I would shun any manufacturer that puts one forth as though they had colluded with the enemy.
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Not in this life, and I would shun any manufacturer that puts one forth as though they had colluded with the enemy. Exactly!
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Is the president's secret service detail using smart technology weapons? When they are, I'll look into it. That was going to be my answer too. I work for the school system, if I could carry on school property but had to have smart technology, then absolutely, For my own use, no way,
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No. they have enough mechanical problems without adding electronics...
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I haven't even bought a S&W revolver since they added the internal lock. It adds nothing to the functionality of the firearm. Same with any smart gun technology.
So, NO! Exactly. Something else that can go wrong.
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Not in this life, and I would shun any manufacturer that puts one forth as though they had colluded with the enemy. This.
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I didn't want a gd smartphone either, but now, I got to have the f'n thing. Things change.
I will never be able to stand a Westfield Savage or post 64 Winchester though; just the way I was raised.
How we laughed when the Honda car came out, and the Glock, plastic gums, JC what is this world coming to?
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I have them already, my finger (only) touch's the trigger. That's smart!
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I will own a gun. Just happens I have plenty and if the smart tech was all that was for sale then No. If I was 18 and new to guns and all I could buy is a smart gun then I still want a gun so yes or see if I could find a black market gun. https://smarttechfoundation.org/smart-firearms-technology/jonathan-mossberg/Well Walt guess you need to get rid of all your Mossberg products.
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Saw a demo, heard the spiel. Barring a mandate from POTUS, would you buy one if it was just another option? Eff no... And any so-called 'mandate' by the AIC would be fully and totally ignored by anyone with 1/10 a brain.. Of course, that leaves out liberals..
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If the technology became reliable enough that I wouldn't have any qualms about betting my life on it, then maybe, depending on how I liked the actual gun itself. Until then, no.
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If the technology became reliable enough that I wouldn't have any qualms about betting my life on it, then maybe, depending on how I liked the actual gun itself. Until then, no. Electronics can be remotely jammed. electronic jamming - deliberate radiation or reflection of electromagnetic energy for the purpose of disrupting enemy use of electronic devices or systems.
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Does it work every time???? Wet/Dry. Light/Dark. LH/RH. My Hand/Wifes Hand.........
I doubt it.............
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And I would bet serious money that smart gun technology will jack up the cost of that gun a LOT. Thereby acting to depress gun sales. See how it works? Anything to make it harder, more expensive, more red tape, etc. etc.... But of course they only want "common sense", "reasonable" gun control measures. That means making gun ownership out of reach of the average, law abiding citizen; but not the elite ruling class.
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Maybe. Probably be collectible a year or two after introduction.
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The fingerprint unlock on my iPhone doesn't work half the time. No way I'd depend on that technology for my life.
Obama thinks he's being creative but Slick Willie already tried this with S&W and it didn't turn out. I would be surprised if any manufacturer was willing to go along with it.
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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Read this article about one if the Mossberg kids then.The link read the link.
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Not only NO - but (everyone knows the rest of this story) 
I've always been a curmudgeon - now I'm an old curmudgeon.
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No. I don't even like safeties.
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Why in the hell would anybody want one ?
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NO! The fingerprint unlock on my iPhone doesn't work half the time. No way I'd depend on that technology for my life.
That right there. Wet fingers, cold fingers, dirty fingers; 'smart' stuff is failure prone and unreliable. No. I don't even like safeties. I very rarely use a safety! 
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My old, dumb ones work just fine.
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There are no problems that cannot be resolved by the suitable application of high explosive.
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And I would bet serious money that smart gun technology will jack up the cost of that gun a LOT. Thereby acting to depress gun sales. See how it works? Anything to make it harder, more expensive, more red tape, etc. etc.... But of course they only want "common sense", "reasonable" gun control measures. That means making gun ownership out of reach of the average, law abiding citizen; but not the elite ruling class. All part of their agenda; fits right in.
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There would be, for sure, a backdoor to de-activate.
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I want nothing between my brain and my trigger finger.
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Not a chance that I would buy one.
It seem's like Mossberg is wanting a big slice of the government/LE/military business with this technology.
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Mine presently seem smart enough.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
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Not a hope in Hell, I am irritated enough with my cars thinking they can tell me what to do.
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No, I also will not own a "smart phone".
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If the technology became reliable enough that I wouldn't have any qualms about betting my life on it, then maybe, depending on how I liked the actual gun itself. Until then, no. In your dreams. The neat thing about simple mechanical devices is that you can generally tell if they will work reliably by looking at them. Electronics.....not so much. Not just no.....
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Not just no, but phugg no!
There's two reasons our beloved Barry wants to push this, and neither has anything to do with accepting private ownership or increasing safety.
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Not just no, but phugg no!
There's two reasons our beloved Barry wants to push this, and neither has anything to do with accepting private ownership or increasing safety.
7mm Exactly. It has nothing at all to do with safety concerns. The idea that there's a safety problem with guns that the Federal Government needs to address is a PSYOP designed to set us up for ever increasing legislative measures at the Federal level to hamstring, and eventually eliminate, civilian gun ownership in the US per United Nations directives.
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No effen' way. How many times have you read about somebody that can't get their electronic lock on their safe to work?
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once we do this, then when they are ready, they will just turn all the guns "off"
try that with the guns I lost in a boating accident. LOL. Especially my MZ's where I can make powder, and bullets and use flints to ignite.....
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Wouldn't this technology render moot the concept of 'battlefield pickups' when the SHTF? No thanks, it's a nefarious solution in search of a problem.
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You guys don't really think the .gov would do anything unconstitutional with the ability to "turn off" a gun, do you? <SARCASM> www.apple.com/customer-letterAny gun maker that endorses or utilizes this technology should be boycotted, IMHO.
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Actually yes. Especially for those semi trained Moms who's toddlers are shooting them.
Technology always improves so I don't worry about that.
I have a wonderful collection of 18th, 19th and 20th century firearms technology and I enjoy shooting them all.
I am ready for some 21st century technology that may be more accurate, more efficient, more cost effective and yes, safer.
So many of you always look back. I try to look towards the future.
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Future or not, why would you want a built in means by which someone else can shut it down against your will?
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Enjoy your flintlock. If you are on here "they" know who you are and where you live, and probably what you have.
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Enjoy your flintlock. If you are on here "they" know who you are and where you live, and probably what you have. Whatever, but none of them have remote controlled off switches.
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Enjoy your flintlock. If you are on here "they" know who you are and where you live, and probably what you have. Whatever, but none of them have remote controlled off switches. Remote, directed, jamming of electronics is current technology.
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Enjoy your flintlock. If you are on here "they" know who you are and where you live, and probably what you have. Whatever, but none of them have remote controlled off switches. Remote, directed, jamming of electronics is current technology. Maybe you missed my point. I don't have any smart guns. My "flintlocks" don't have remote controls.
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As we have seen, neither does the iPhone.
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Nope, I will not aid the Enemy.
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Only a genius could think of building in another potential failure point. Ask anyone who has worked in a gunstore how often folks come in w/ locked guns, primarily Smiths and Tauri, w/out their key.
mike r
Don't wish it were easier
Wish you were better
Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that.
Craig Douglas ECQC
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Maybe. Probably be collectible a year or two after introduction. Yeah, like that sweet Remington Etronix...
Ex- USN (SS) '66-'69
Pro-Constitution.
LET'S GO BRANDON!!!
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did you really have to ask? More money for a less reliable gun, and probably you cannot even shoot with your off hand, or teach the grandkids how to shoot.
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Campfire Tracker
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Heck no I wouldnt want one. Next they will want a gps in them so they can tract the gun or see if it was in the area of a crime scene. Maybe hook them up to the internet so they can shut it down if they decide your a danger.
Life can be rough on us dreamers.
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No. I wouldn't buy a 700 with a J lock. Why would I?
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
Edmund Burke 1795
"Give me liberty or give me death"
Patrick Henry 1775
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