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I saw something yesterday that I have not seen for at least 25 years around here.

Diesel selling for .10 per gallon less than gas ( 1.99 for diesel 2.09 for gas). Its usually at least .25 per gallon higher.

Any other areas seeing this?



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Originally Posted by hillbillybear
I saw something yesterday that I have not seen for at least 25 years around here.

Diesel selling for .10 per gallon less than gas ( 1.99 for diesel 2.09 for gas). Its usually at least .25 per gallon higher.

Any other areas seeing this?



I am seeing it in the W-S/Greensboro area . Nice attempt at price fixing

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Originally Posted by hillbillybear
I saw something yesterday that I have not seen for at least 25 years around here.

Diesel selling for .10 per gallon less than gas ( 1.99 for diesel 2.09 for gas). Its usually at least .25 per gallon higher.

Any other areas seeing this?

Yep - a short few months ago.. Never thought I'd see that day..


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Some stations here are a little below and some a little above. Seems that Randy and I saw a couple of places in Oklahoma near a year ago when he drove me back from Quemado, where diesel was a little less than Gasoline. Not many, just a couple. miles


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10 cents less near Atlanta...

We just bought a gas car and this happens. When I bought my f250 diesel about a decade earlier, the prices for diesel went from below economy to higher than premium gas.

I wonder if my genes have a schleprock mutation.

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yes in Chattanooga. Was surprised to see that as well.

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price gouging you know them bastads ain't gona miss a trick to make money

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Wholesale cost for diesel is well below gasoline, has been for 6 months...

Stations don't compete and drive diesel pricing down like they do on gas.

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its lower now because the oilfield has crashed, there's not the demand for it like there was when you had thousands of rigs generators and trucks running 24/7.


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It used to be that way all the time. I never understood why the tables turned.

I wondered if it had to do with military consumption during the war in Iraq and Afganistan.



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In the 80s and 90s diesel was cheaper than gas. I remember it went up after Katrina. I think it is cheaper to process than gas.

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the main reason is what i stated above, everything in the oilfield runs on diesel.


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I read, a while back, that the U.S. was shipping diesel to China, and that was the reason prices were so high. According to the article, China had a strong economy and had a lot of building, etc going on.

It could be that now their economy isnt doing so well, they have stopped a lot of the projects, and dont need the fuel.


Also, the US is producing a larger percentage of the fuel we use, not buying it from the Arabs and others.

Just a couple of thoughts.


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Originally Posted by stxhunter
its lower now because the oilfield has crashed, there's not the demand for it like there was when you had thousands of rigs generators and trucks running 24/7.


There you go, making sense.


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Originally Posted by kingston
It used to be that way all the time. I never understood why the tables turned.

I wondered if it had to do with military consumption during the war in Iraq and Afganistan.



The "tables turned" when the government decided that sulfur in diesel fuel was drowning all the polar bears.


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Originally Posted by stxhunter
the main reason is what i stated above, everything in the oilfield runs on diesel.


Less freight being hauled as well[an indicator of this fine economy according to Obama whistle ]
Simple supply & demand.


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Supply and demand. In years past, a lot of the US diesel was being shipped overseas since they could get a better price for it in Europe and China.

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It has been that way here in Colorado for at least 6 months.

Remember when the refineries said that they wee operating at peak capacities and even if there was more crude,they couldn't make more fuel and that was what driving the price up to $4 a gallon.
Then they came out and said diesel was 50 cents a gallon higher than gas,because they got less diesel out of a barrel of crude.

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Originally Posted by saddlesore
It has been that way here in Colorado for at least 6 months.

Remember when the refineries said that they wee operating at peak capacities and even if there was more crude,they couldn't make more fuel and that was what driving the price up to $4 a gallon.
Then they came out and said diesel was 50 cents a gallon higher than gas,because they got less diesel out of a barrel of crude.

You can't believe anything the oil companies say


Yeah that is laughable. Around here the prices change daily and they get a shipment once a week , go figure.

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The switch to low sulfur diesel created a production bottleneck. Then a lot of China's factories started running on gen-sets because they could not get reliable electricity of the net. So for the refineries, it was easier to just export the diesel, rather than invest in the additional equipment to steam out the sulfur for the domestic market.

Then, China started building electrical plants like there was no tomorrow, the Euro market for transportation fuel went soft, and the US market for transportation fuel (semi-trucks) is down considerably.

So Chinese, European AND American demand for diesel is soft, and the proportion of gas / diesel is somewhat fixed, so the relative price of diesel is coming down.


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