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Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? #11161557 05/03/16 Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 13,027 In the woods... RAS OP Campfire Outfitter OP RAS Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 13,027 In the woods... I would like a head count please. For me, no. Trump believes it though. Our GOP front runner running against Hillary Clinton. http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-...lts/2016/05/trump-ted-cruz-father-222730 My follow up question later on is, "How many of you believe a kook should have the nuclear codes?" "...aspire to live quietly, and to mind your own affairs, and to work with your hands, as we instructed you, so that you may walk properly before outsiders and be dependent on no one." - Paul to the church in Thessalonica.

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161564 05/03/16 Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 79,321 B Bristoe Campfire Oracle Bristoe Campfire Oracle B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 79,321 Nobody. Trump just said it was in National Enquirer because he knew that Cruz would go on a 20 minute rant on national TV about it. The more the public is exposed to Cruz, the less they like him. Trump's people wanted Cruz on TV as much as possible.

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161568 05/03/16 Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 13,027 In the woods... RAS OP Campfire Outfitter OP RAS Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 13,027 In the woods... I already counted you as one. Listen to Trumps words again. His, not anyone else's in that sound clip. Who else here? "...aspire to live quietly, and to mind your own affairs, and to work with your hands, as we instructed you, so that you may walk properly before outsiders and be dependent on no one." - Paul to the church in Thessalonica.

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161570 05/03/16 Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 761 T Tim_in_Nv Campfire Regular Tim_in_Nv Campfire Regular T Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 761 Bristoe, how does your voting record compare with Mr. Trump? You seem to spend a fair amount of time supporting him here on the fire. Who did you vote for in 2000, 2004, 2008, and 2012? Who did Mr. Trump vote for in 2000, 2004, 2008, and 2012? Just curious, as you two seem to go way back.

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161571 05/03/16 Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 10,817 So Cal B bigsqueeze Campfire Outfitter bigsqueeze Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 10,817 So Cal No.....And let's assume that he was with Oswald handing out fliers on a sidewalk somewhere...1963 was a few years BEFORE Ted Cruz was even born. Trump is a loose cannon and shoots from the hip. No doubt there. However! He is no kook.... So all of you GOP anti-Trumpsters have a choice. You will either vote for Trump in order to deny as best as possible a Hillary presidency,,,,,,or,,,,,,,,you will stay home on election day which will help assure a DISASTROUS Hillary presidency... Swallow your damned prides and vote Trump! That is the bottom line. 28 Nosler,,,,300WSM,,,,338-378 Wby,,,,375 Ruger

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? Tim_in_Nv #11161576 05/03/16 Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 13,027 In the woods... RAS OP Campfire Outfitter OP RAS Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 13,027 In the woods... Just heard this today, and just hours after he gets the damn nomination. Again, how many of you believe this, as Donald Trump believes this? I would really like to know. "...aspire to live quietly, and to mind your own affairs, and to work with your hands, as we instructed you, so that you may walk properly before outsiders and be dependent on no one." - Paul to the church in Thessalonica.

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? Tim_in_Nv #11161578 05/03/16 Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 79,321 B Bristoe Campfire Oracle Bristoe Campfire Oracle B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 79,321 Originally Posted by Tim_in_Nv Bristoe, how does your voting record compare with Mr. Trump? You seem to spend a fair amount of time supporting him here on the fire. Who did you vote for in 2000, 2004, 2008, and 2012? Who did Mr. Trump vote for in 2000, 2004, 2008, and 2012? Just curious, as you two seem to go way back. We're the GOP base now. If you don't want to be a part of it it's your business.

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161579 05/03/16 Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 26,389 Minnysoda G Ghostinthemachine Campfire Ranger Ghostinthemachine Campfire Ranger G Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 26,389 Minnysoda I think it's 'possible' but not likely. I'm a Kookista I've been told. Go Trump!

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? bigsqueeze #11161580 05/03/16 Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 13,027 In the woods... RAS OP Campfire Outfitter OP RAS Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 13,027 In the woods... Originally Posted by bigsqueeze No.....And let's assume that he was with Oswald handing out fliers on a sidewalk somewhere...1963 was a few years BEFORE Ted Cruz was even born. Trump is a loose cannon and shoots from the hip. No doubt there. However! He is no kook.... So all of you GOP anti-Trumpsters have a choice. You will either vote for Trump in order to deny as best as possible a Hillary presidency,,,,,,or,,,,,,,,you will stay home on election day which will help assure a DISASTROUS Hillary presidency... Swallow your damned prides and vote Trump! That is the bottom line. Loose cannon that shoots from the hip, with possible nuclear codes you meant to say. Sorry, if my brain tells me something is quite odd here for a man who wants to be President of the United States. "...aspire to live quietly, and to mind your own affairs, and to work with your hands, as we instructed you, so that you may walk properly before outsiders and be dependent on no one." - Paul to the church in Thessalonica.

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161582 05/03/16 Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 10,817 So Cal B bigsqueeze Campfire Outfitter bigsqueeze Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 10,817 So Cal Originally Posted by RAS Just heard this today, and just hours after he gets the damn nomination. Again, how many of you believe this, as Donald Trump believes this? I would really like to know. .......I myself don't believe the Enquirer story as I stated "no" in my last post. However, I'm not convinced that Trump believes the Inquirer story. I think he exploited it for political reasons to use against Cruz. 28 Nosler,,,,300WSM,,,,338-378 Wby,,,,375 Ruger

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161583 05/03/16 Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 10,817 So Cal B bigsqueeze Campfire Outfitter bigsqueeze Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 10,817 So Cal Originally Posted by RAS Originally Posted by bigsqueeze No.....And let's assume that he was with Oswald handing out fliers on a sidewalk somewhere...1963 was a few years BEFORE Ted Cruz was even born. Trump is a loose cannon and shoots from the hip. No doubt there. However! He is no kook.... So all of you GOP anti-Trumpsters have a choice. You will either vote for Trump in order to deny as best as possible a Hillary presidency,,,,,,or,,,,,,,,you will stay home on election day which will help assure a DISASTROUS Hillary presidency... Swallow your damned prides and vote Trump! That is the bottom line. Loose cannon that shoots from the hip, with possible nuclear codes you meant to say. Sorry, if my brain tells me something is quite odd here for a man who wants to be President of the United States. ....Well....Then you use that brain of yours and vote Hillary in Nov. 28 Nosler,,,,300WSM,,,,338-378 Wby,,,,375 Ruger

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? Bristoe #11161584 05/03/16 Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 761 T Tim_in_Nv Campfire Regular Tim_in_Nv Campfire Regular T Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 761 Bristoe, you didn't answer the question. You can be the entire GOP and not just it's base, if you want to be. I have never sent them a dime, and never will. I have supported candidates that happened to be republican. So, come on now. Fess up. Answer my original question..

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161586 05/03/16 Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 13,027 In the woods... RAS OP Campfire Outfitter OP RAS Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 13,027 In the woods... Trump sounds pretty damned convinced to me. You should listen again. Look at Doucey's face when he says it. No fan of Trump, but a few hours ago I mentioned I would support him with a vote. Break: I am not voting for some kook though. This is beyond whether I like his politics or not. He just informed me and the world that he is a real, bonafide, whack job. "...aspire to live quietly, and to mind your own affairs, and to work with your hands, as we instructed you, so that you may walk properly before outsiders and be dependent on no one." - Paul to the church in Thessalonica.

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161589 05/03/16 Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 79,321 B Bristoe Campfire Oracle Bristoe Campfire Oracle B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 79,321 Personally, I don't want you in the GOP. It's not for me to say, but in my opinion, the Republicans who lack the ability to see through the Cruz's of the political world have caused the GOP enough problems. I won't be encouraging any of you to stay. Go vote Constitution Party, or something. It's got nothing for you to damage, so you'll be harmless there.

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161591 05/03/16 Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 10,817 So Cal B bigsqueeze Campfire Outfitter bigsqueeze Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 10,817 So Cal Originally Posted by RAS Trump sounds pretty damned convinced to me. You should listen again. Look at Doucey's face when he says it. No fan of Trump, but a few hours ago I mentioned I would support him with a vote. Break: I am not voting for some kook though. This is beyond whether I like his politics or not. He just informed me and the world that he is a real, bonafide, whack job. ....THEN VOTE HILLARY! 28 Nosler,,,,300WSM,,,,338-378 Wby,,,,375 Ruger

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161592 05/03/16 Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 14,076 40 Years too Late H heavywalker Campfire Outfitter heavywalker Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 14,076 40 Years too Late Originally Posted by RAS Trump sounds pretty damned convinced to me. You should listen again. Look at Doucey's face when he says it. No fan of Trump, but a few hours ago I mentioned I would support him with a vote. Break: I am not voting for some kook though. This is beyond whether I like his politics or not. He just informed me and the world that he is a real, bonafide, whack job. You need to stop negotiating with yourself you are sure to lose.

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161594 05/03/16 Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 79,321 B Bristoe Campfire Oracle Bristoe Campfire Oracle B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 79,321 The knothead variant of Republicans has given us George W, McCain, and Mitt Alinsky Romney. Now they want to bitch about Trump? Get da fug outta here.

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161595 05/03/16 Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 13,027 In the woods... RAS OP Campfire Outfitter OP RAS Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 13,027 In the woods... I find it amazing that you find no pause in this. Absolutely amazing. "...aspire to live quietly, and to mind your own affairs, and to work with your hands, as we instructed you, so that you may walk properly before outsiders and be dependent on no one." - Paul to the church in Thessalonica.

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161598 05/03/16 Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 10,817 So Cal B bigsqueeze Campfire Outfitter bigsqueeze Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 10,817 So Cal Originally Posted by RAS I find it amazing that you find no pause in this. Absolutely amazing. .........With a Trump vs Hillary in the general election,,,there is NO REASON TO PAUSE....... I wouldn't for for Hillary even if your life depended on it. How's that for a pause? 28 Nosler,,,,300WSM,,,,338-378 Wby,,,,375 Ruger

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? Tim_in_Nv #11161599 05/03/16 Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,691 kciH Campfire Tracker kciH Campfire Tracker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,691 Originally Posted by Tim_in_Nv Bristoe, how does your voting record compare with Mr. Trump? You seem to spend a fair amount of time supporting him here on the fire. Who did you vote for in 2000, 2004, 2008, and 2012? Who did Mr. Trump vote for in 2000, 2004, 2008, and 2012? Just curious, as you two seem to go way back. JHC, it's like commy tribunal in here. "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." TJ "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing". EB

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? kciH #11161616 05/03/16 Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 761 T Tim_in_Nv Campfire Regular Tim_in_Nv Campfire Regular T Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 761 kcih, I have absolutely no idea what your comment means. But Bristoe hasn't answered the question because he's too busy littering the neighborhood with new "GOP Base" signs. How does your voting record compare to Mr. Trump's?

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161627 05/03/16 Joined: May 2006 Posts: 3,945 Massachusetts H Harry M Campfire Tracker Harry M Campfire Tracker H Joined: May 2006 Posts: 3,945 Massachusetts It's over. Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161629 05/03/16 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 96,121 S Steelhead Campfire Oracle Steelhead Campfire Oracle S Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 96,121 If you're facing a fighter with a cracked right rib, where you gonna hit him? Last edited by Steelhead; 05/03/16. "Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161636 05/03/16 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,359 VA kid0917 Campfire Outfitter kid0917 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,359 VA Is that a racist remark??

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161638 05/03/16 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 96,121 S Steelhead Campfire Oracle Steelhead Campfire Oracle S Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 96,121 Typing during your first cup of coffee is always a mistake. "Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161645 05/03/16 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,359 VA kid0917 Campfire Outfitter kid0917 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,359 VA No harm Scott, what's the difference between an r and a d.... Wow, sounds like our political party choices these days! Have a great morning bus run today, sir...

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161677 05/03/16 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 96,121 S Steelhead Campfire Oracle Steelhead Campfire Oracle S Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 96,121 No, I stopped doing that 18 months ago "Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161686 05/03/16 Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 4,606 Hilliard, Florida D Daveinjax Campfire Tracker Daveinjax Campfire Tracker D Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 4,606 Hilliard, Florida Trump doesn't really care if it is true or not. Rafael Cruze Sr was going around saying something to the effect that Cruze was God's candidate. Trump used the story to cast light on the fact that Cruze Sr actually had been a Castro supporter and it is very possible that it is Cruze Sr in the picture with Oswalt. He hoped it would cast dispersions and would set Cruze off and get him ranting like crazed idiot...and it worked . GO TRUMP ! ‘TO LEARN WHO RULES OVER YOU, SIMPLY FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO CRITICIZE’ Conspiracy theorists are the ones who see it all coming… You are the carbon they want to eliminate ! I’m Uber Deplorable Ultra MAGA !

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161711 05/03/16 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,202 Eastern North Carolina Snyper Campfire Tracker Snyper Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,202 Eastern North Carolina Originally Posted by RAS I find it amazing that you find no pause in this. Absolutely amazing. Why "pause"? He commented on a "news" story. He was asked specifically about Cruz's father's comments against him You're overreacting. If you don't like Trump, let Clinton win. That's your choice, but don't claim it's because he's a "kook". That's just parroting what Cruz said: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...k-assassin-cruz-goes-ballistic/83874972/ One shot, one kill........ It saves a lot of ammo!

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? bigsqueeze #11161744 05/03/16 Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 894 SW MO J jaytee Campfire Regular jaytee Campfire Regular J Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 894 SW MO Originally Posted by bigsqueeze No.....And let's assume that he was with Oswald handing out fliers on a sidewalk somewhere...1963 was a few years BEFORE Ted Cruz was even born. Trump is a loose cannon and shoots from the hip. No doubt there. However! He is no kook.... So all of you GOP anti-Trumpsters have a choice. You will either vote for Trump in order to deny as best as possible a Hillary presidency,,,,,,or,,,,,,,,you will stay home on election day which will help assure a DISASTROUS Hillary presidency... Swallow your damned prides and vote Trump! That is the bottom line. I cant imagine anyone who embraces their second amendment rights voting for Hitlary or Bernie. Makes absolutely no sense to me.

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? Tim_in_Nv #11161822 05/03/16 Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 19,107 Arkansas milespatton Campfire Ranger milespatton Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 19,107 Arkansas Quote You can be the entire GOP and not just it's base, if you want to be. I have never sent them a dime, and never will. I have supported candidates that happened to be republican. If I am reading this correctly, you send no money to the GOP party but have sent some to GOP candidates on occasion. This is what I now do, but I have sent to the party long ago before I figured out what they were doing. If you do not help a candidate that you believe in, how do you expect things to get better? miles Look out for number 1, don't step in number 2.

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? Ghostinthemachine #11161903 05/03/16 Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,614 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,614 Orange Park, Florida Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine I think it's 'possible' but not likely. I'm a Kookista I've been told. Go Trump! That is an understatement... A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? Bristoe #11161910 05/03/16 Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,614 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,614 Orange Park, Florida Originally Posted by Bristoe We're the GOP base now. Now I know how my dad felt in January of 1959 when Castro rolled into Havana and the next week the "base" was sacking our neighbor's house after they fled the country.. Oh, and nice dodge and not answering what I know to be a rhetorical question.. A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161916 05/03/16 Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,638 E of the Rockies, W of the res... bellydeep Campfire Tracker bellydeep Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,638 E of the Rockies, W of the res... Originally Posted by RAS My follow up question later on is, "How many of you believe a kook should have the nuclear codes?" You're several months late to the party, pal. The question is no longer whether you want Trump having the codes. The question now is whether you want Hilary having them and everything else that comes with the whitehouse. Originally Posted by shrapnel I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. Originally Posted by JohnBurns I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161931 05/03/16 Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 14,799 J JoeBob Campfire Outfitter JoeBob Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 14,799 I doubt it was him, but it was someone and most likely a Cuban. I'm not going to dig up the Warren Commision report, but I think everyone in that photo has been identified except for that person. That seems unlikely on its face. If the others in the photo were identified you show them the photo and say, "Who is that guy?" I find it hard to believe that none of them knew who he was. I suspect that it is known but hidden for some reason.

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161956 05/03/16 Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,614 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,614 Orange Park, Florida The nuclear code issue and Trump is a Red Herring. Even if it were true that Trump was unhinged, there are just too many safeguards to prevent ONE person from initiating a nuclear strike. I've said this before, I don't think anyone knows what Trump's true political philosophies are, I can opine he is not a conservative but he is a WINNER and yes, I do worry about what he might do, but the "might" is a lot better than the "for sure" Hillary and the democrats WILL DO and that is enough for me. At least he said he was going to rebuild the military and use it in OUR National Interest and that was good to hear. I am amazed though at all of you who harped about being "paleo-conservatives" and are now Trump supporters, when he is clearly anything but. A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? jorgeI #11161963 05/03/16 Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 14,799 J JoeBob Campfire Outfitter JoeBob Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 14,799 After 8 years of Obama and with Hillary looming on the horizon I would be absolutely pumped about practically anyone. But a little nationalism is what we need right now and Trump is uniquely situated to deliver it.

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161971 05/03/16 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 15,680 Fairbanksan in Aleutian Hell stevelyn Campfire Ranger stevelyn Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 15,680 Fairbanksan in Aleutian Hell With him? Hell, he was on the grassy knoll. Z

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161972 05/03/16 Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 69,603 Not In The City rockinbbar Campfire Kahuna rockinbbar Campfire Kahuna Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 69,603 Not In The City After nearly a year of being the target of Trump and Trumpkins, who could blame him for getting out? Nothing was out of bounds in this election. Not family. not lies, not anything. Being a pawn in one of the biggest reality shows in history just doesn't register to many. Trump and Hillary are in the same boat. Half of the conservatives hate Trump. Half of the liberals hate Hillary. Problem is, we are all on the same boat... The name of the boat is the Titanic. Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11161979 05/03/16 Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,251 raleigh, nc F fats Campfire Regular fats Campfire Regular F Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,251 raleigh, nc RAS, you're not alone in thinking Trump is a KOOK. He is! It's a shame America has got to this point. If Hillary wins so be it. For you Trump followers... Would you be okay with your children growing up like him? Or you daughter marrying someone like him? I know, I know, he's gonna build a wall.

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? JoeBob #11161987 05/03/16 Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,614 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,614 Orange Park, Florida I have always, always been a proponent of nationalism and the "Three P's" strategy, and that is, the protection, preservation and projection of the national interest, which is an anathema to what RP stood for, an almost complete withdrawal of US power projection. That is why I am so amused in a way, that a huge portion of the Trump base are former RP supporters. Trump needs to get busy though with SPECIFICS on what he plans to do. Hope and Change Make America Great Again sells to the masses, but symbolism over substance doesn't work if one has a modicum of intelligence. A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? fats #11162010 05/03/16 Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383 O Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger O Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383 Originally Posted by fats RAS, you're not alone in thinking Trump is a KOOK. He is! It's a shame America has got to this point. If Hillary wins so be it. For you Trump followers... Would you be okay with your children growing up like him? Or you daughter marrying someone like him? I know, I know, he's gonna build a wall. Yeah he is a Kook who spent 900K on his campaign in Indiana while Cruz spent millions. Have you looked at Cruz's fathers background before you typed what you typed? The old man is certifiable, the old man and his son made a lot of really stupid commentary this whole while and no one called them on it , they sure fooled a lot of bible thumpers for sure. A kook does not raise kids like Trump has first of all. There are 2 sides to him Showman and real person. We never get to see the real person.

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? jorgeI #11162378 05/04/16 Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 15,856 MBS, MI A AJ300MAG Campfire Ranger AJ300MAG Campfire Ranger A Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 15,856 MBS, MI Originally Posted by jorgeI The nuclear code issue and Trump is a Red Herring. Even if it were true that Trump was unhinged, there are just too many safeguards to prevent ONE person from initiating a nuclear strike. Yup! It's not like he can lock himself in a bathroom somewhere and start flinging nukes...

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? fats #11162384 05/04/16 Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 South Florida deflave Campfire Sage deflave Campfire Sage Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 South Florida Originally Posted by fats For you Trump followers... Would you be okay with your children growing up like him? Or you daughter marrying someone like him? These have to be the two stupidest questions I've ever read. Clark Originally Posted by Geno67 Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Originally Posted by Judman Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. Originally Posted by KSMITH My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? AJ300MAG #11162385 05/04/16 Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 South Florida deflave Campfire Sage deflave Campfire Sage Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 South Florida Originally Posted by AJ300MAG Yup! It's not like he can lock himself in a bathroom somewhere and start flinging nukes... I have locked myself in a bathroom and flung a few nukes. Not a big deal really. Dave Originally Posted by Geno67 Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Originally Posted by Judman Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. Originally Posted by KSMITH My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? deflave #11162392 05/04/16 Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 14,799 J JoeBob Campfire Outfitter JoeBob Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 14,799 Originally Posted by deflave Originally Posted by AJ300MAG Yup! It's not like he can lock himself in a bathroom somewhere and start flinging nukes... I have locked myself in a bathroom and flung a few nukes. Not a big deal really. Dave I'm reading this from the bathroom and at Defcon 4 as we speak.

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? jorgeI #11162397 05/04/16 Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,987 NW Oregon B bowmanh Campfire Regular bowmanh Campfire Regular B Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,987 NW Oregon Originally Posted by jorgeI I have always, always been a proponent of nationalism and the "Three P's" strategy, and that is, the protection, preservation and projection of the national interest, which is an anathema to what RP stood for, an almost complete withdrawal of US power projection. That is why I am so amused in a way, that a huge portion of the Trump base are former RP supporters. Trump needs to get busy though with SPECIFICS on what he plans to do. Hope and Change Make America Great Again sells to the masses, but symbolism over substance doesn't work if one has a modicum of intelligence. Jorge has it right. Trump better get his act together if he wants to win against Hillary. He will have to appear to have some real understanding of policy if he wants to win in the general election with a very different group of voters. Just pushing the anger button won't work. I'm not a Trump fan but he's still better than Hillary. As usual, this presidential election is about choosing the lesser of evils.

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11162401 05/04/16 Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 32,044 Kpt.,TN , Montgomery, Co, VA bea175 Campfire 'Bwana bea175 Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 32,044 Kpt.,TN , Montgomery, Co, VA Since his father is Cuban it is possible, but who really knows. I believe Cruz Father was the other shooter on the Grassy Knoll A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? jorgeI #11162408 05/04/16 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 23,533 Southern Ohio KFWA Campfire Ranger KFWA Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 23,533 Southern Ohio Originally Posted by jorgeI I have always, always been a proponent of nationalism and the "Three P's" strategy, and that is, the protection, preservation and projection of the national interest, which is an anathema to what RP stood for, an almost complete withdrawal of US power projection. That is why I am so amused in a way, that a huge portion of the Trump base are former RP supporters. that's because you're more concerned with making generic statements to show how superior you think you are than actually thinking about what you type. Its not even worth getting into it you're so off base on this but suffice to say, RP was very border centric and preached national interest before anything else. have you paid your dues, can you moan the blues, can you bend them guitar strings

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11162447 05/04/16 Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,614 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,614 Orange Park, Florida He preached HIS version of the national interest which was, naïve and idiotic. "we don't need overseas bases and a big military when a few nuclear armed subs will do" or words to that effect. His domestic and fiscal policies were sound, but his Foreign Policy was downright stupid and dangerous, but even that is irrelevant. Trump's speech yesterday was completely opposite of what RP's vision of Foreign and the Military was. Border-centric? wow, another spin on isolationism. A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11163029 05/04/16 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 23,533 Southern Ohio KFWA Campfire Ranger KFWA Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 23,533 Southern Ohio I don't give a phug the differences of what he said He promoted national interest and was border centric. RP preached protecting our own borders every chance he got. Its pretty easy for anyone that doesn't spout horseshit about the unwashed masses to understand how RP supporters can be attracted to Trumps message. There is actually quite a few of them that hate Trump as well. have you paid your dues, can you moan the blues, can you bend them guitar strings

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11163051 05/04/16 Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 23,319 Oklahoma OrangeOkie Campfire Ranger OrangeOkie Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 23,319 Oklahoma I believe it. I saw the photo that proves it. "All that the South has ever desired was that the Union, as established by our forefathers, should be preserved, and that the government, as originally organized, should be administered in purity and truth." – Robert E. Lee

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11163106 05/04/16 Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 14,408 R rem141r Campfire Outfitter rem141r Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 14,408 hell i think he was on the grassy knoll with a xp100 in 221 fireball. My diploma is a DD214

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11163121 05/04/16 Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 24,287 Arkansas O ol_mike Campfire Ranger ol_mike Campfire Ranger O Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 24,287 Arkansas Originally Posted by RAS [quote=bigsqueeze]No.....And let's assume that he was with Oswald handing out fliers on a sidewalk somewhere...1963 was a few years BEFORE Ted Cruz was even born. Trump is a loose cannon and shoots from the hip. No doubt there. However! He is no kook.... So all of you GOP anti-Trumpsters have a choice. You will either vote for Trump in order to deny as best as possible a Hillary presidency,,,,,,or,,,,,,,,you will stay home on election day which will help assure a DISASTROUS Hillary presidency... Swallow your damned prides and vote Trump! That is the bottom line. ------------------------------------------------------------------- ""Trump is a loose cannon that shoots from the hip, No doubt there ."" ------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm going to end reading this thread right here .. Too dang funny O-M-G Trumps going to have nuclear codes and he shoots from the hip -run for the hills everybody Trump is going to nuke someone today - I just feel it !! It's known around the world he's a psycho/whack job who is 100% unreasonable -anything is possible with a known nut-case like Trump ...... 24 hour campfire comedy gold . Last edited by ol_mike; 05/04/16. PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!! Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? ol_mike #11163206 05/04/16 Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 10,817 So Cal B bigsqueeze Campfire Outfitter bigsqueeze Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 10,817 So Cal Originally Posted by ol_mike Originally Posted by RAS [quote=bigsqueeze]No.....And let's assume that he was with Oswald handing out fliers on a sidewalk somewhere...1963 was a few years BEFORE Ted Cruz was even born. Trump is a loose cannon and shoots from the hip. No doubt there. However! He is no kook.... So all of you GOP anti-Trumpsters have a choice. You will either vote for Trump in order to deny as best as possible a Hillary presidency,,,,,,or,,,,,,,,you will stay home on election day which will help assure a DISASTROUS Hillary presidency... Swallow your damned prides and vote Trump! That is the bottom line. ------------------------------------------------------------------- ""Trump is a loose cannon that shoots from the hip, No doubt there ."" ------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm going to end reading this thread right here .. Too dang funny O-M-G Trumps going to have nuclear codes and he shoots from the hip -run for the hills everybody Trump is going to nuke someone today - I just feel it !! It's known around the world he's a psycho/whack job who is 100% unreasonable -anything is possible with a known nut-case like Trump ...... 24 hour campfire comedy gold . ........Oh bullschitt!....Many made that very same damned and stupid argument against Ronald Reagan. (Itchy finger on the nuclear button). Trump shoots his mouth off,,,,from the hip. Equating that with shooting off nuclear warheads is moronic and idiotic on your part. Of course idiots like you will always try to justify comparing the two.... 28 Nosler,,,,300WSM,,,,338-378 Wby,,,,375 Ruger

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? bigsqueeze #11163213 05/04/16 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 96,121 S Steelhead Campfire Oracle Steelhead Campfire Oracle S Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 96,121 Originally Posted by bigsqueeze Originally Posted by ol_mike Originally Posted by RAS [quote=bigsqueeze]No.....And let's assume that he was with Oswald handing out fliers on a sidewalk somewhere...1963 was a few years BEFORE Ted Cruz was even born. Trump is a loose cannon and shoots from the hip. No doubt there. However! He is no kook.... So all of you GOP anti-Trumpsters have a choice. You will either vote for Trump in order to deny as best as possible a Hillary presidency,,,,,,or,,,,,,,,you will stay home on election day which will help assure a DISASTROUS Hillary presidency... Swallow your damned prides and vote Trump! That is the bottom line. ------------------------------------------------------------------- ""Trump is a loose cannon that shoots from the hip, No doubt there ."" ------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm going to end reading this thread right here .. Too dang funny O-M-G Trumps going to have nuclear codes and he shoots from the hip -run for the hills everybody Trump is going to nuke someone today - I just feel it !! It's known around the world he's a psycho/whack job who is 100% unreasonable -anything is possible with a known nut-case like Trump ...... 24 hour campfire comedy gold . ........Oh bullschitt!....Many made that very same damned and stupid argument against Ronald Reagan. (Itchy finger on the nuclear button). Trump shoots his mouth off,,,,from the hip. Equating that with shooting off nuclear warheads is moronic and idiotic on your part. Of course idiots like you will always try to justify comparing the two.... Holy Jesus, die again please. "Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? Steelhead #11163225 05/04/16 Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 10,817 So Cal B bigsqueeze Campfire Outfitter bigsqueeze Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 10,817 So Cal Originally Posted by Steelhead Originally Posted by bigsqueeze Originally Posted by ol_mike Originally Posted by RAS [quote=bigsqueeze]No.....And let's assume that he was with Oswald handing out fliers on a sidewalk somewhere...1963 was a few years BEFORE Ted Cruz was even born. Trump is a loose cannon and shoots from the hip. No doubt there. However! He is no kook.... So all of you GOP anti-Trumpsters have a choice. You will either vote for Trump in order to deny as best as possible a Hillary presidency,,,,,,or,,,,,,,,you will stay home on election day which will help assure a DISASTROUS Hillary presidency... Swallow your damned prides and vote Trump! That is the bottom line. ------------------------------------------------------------------- ""Trump is a loose cannon that shoots from the hip, No doubt there ."" ------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm going to end reading this thread right here .. Too dang funny O-M-G Trumps going to have nuclear codes and he shoots from the hip -run for the hills everybody Trump is going to nuke someone today - I just feel it !! It's known around the world he's a psycho/whack job who is 100% unreasonable -anything is possible with a known nut-case like Trump ...... 24 hour campfire comedy gold . ........Oh bullschitt!....Many made that very same damned and stupid argument against Ronald Reagan. (Itchy finger on the nuclear button). Trump shoots his mouth off,,,,from the hip. Equating that with shooting off nuclear warheads is moronic and idiotic on your part. Of course idiots like you will always try to justify comparing the two.... Holy Jesus, die again please. ........LOL!!!....Well feel free to make that happen Steely. Otherwise, your request is denied!...LOL 28 Nosler,,,,300WSM,,,,338-378 Wby,,,,375 Ruger

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? Daveinjax #11163249 05/04/16 Joined: May 2002 Posts: 10,248 ___ is what America was FreeMe Campfire Outfitter FreeMe Campfire Outfitter Joined: May 2002 Posts: 10,248 ___ is what America was Originally Posted by Daveinjax Trump doesn't really care if it is true or not. Rafael Cruze Sr was going around saying something to the effect that Cruze was God's candidate. Trump used the story to cast light on the fact that Cruze Sr actually had been a Castro supporter and it is very possible that it is Cruze Sr in the picture with Oswalt. He hoped it would cast dispersions and would set Cruze off and get him ranting like crazed idiot...and it worked . GO TRUMP ! Could be. Quote I implore, I exhort every member of the body of Christ to vote according to the word of God and vote for the candidate that stands on the word of God and on the Constitution of the United States of America,” Rafael Cruz said in a video clip aired by Fox News. “And I am convinced that man is my son, Ted Cruz. The alternative could be the destruction of America. How does one respond to that? I wouldn't do it the way Trump did, but if you're going to invoke "God's anointed" status you should be expecting just about anything in response. Lunatic fringe....we all know you're out there.

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? Bristoe #11163263 05/04/16 Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 11,916 Plains,Texas P plainsman456 Campfire Outfitter plainsman456 Campfire Outfitter P Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 11,916 Plains,Texas Bristo's new slogan:As it is written so let it be done. Heard it on the radio and he almost told where he read it. Must have been some colluding going on there methinks.

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? Bristoe #11163373 05/04/16 Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 16,000 arizona R RoninPhx Campfire Ranger RoninPhx Campfire Ranger R Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 16,000 arizona Originally Posted by Bristoe Originally Posted by Tim_in_Nv Bristoe, how does your voting record compare with Mr. Trump? You seem to spend a fair amount of time supporting him here on the fire. Who did you vote for in 2000, 2004, 2008, and 2012? Who did Mr. Trump vote for in 2000, 2004, 2008, and 2012? Just curious, as you two seem to go way back. We're the GOP base now. If you don't want to be a part of it it's your business. thank you THE BIRTH PLACE OF GERONIMO

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? FreeMe #11163390 05/04/16 Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,691 kciH Campfire Tracker kciH Campfire Tracker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,691 Originally Posted by FreeMe Originally Posted by Daveinjax Trump doesn't really care if it is true or not. Rafael Cruze Sr was going around saying something to the effect that Cruze was God's candidate. Trump used the story to cast light on the fact that Cruze Sr actually had been a Castro supporter and it is very possible that it is Cruze Sr in the picture with Oswalt. He hoped it would cast dispersions and would set Cruze off and get him ranting like crazed idiot...and it worked . GO TRUMP ! Could be. Quote I implore, I exhort every member of the body of Christ to vote according to the word of God and vote for the candidate that stands on the word of God and on the Constitution of the United States of America,” Rafael Cruz said in a video clip aired by Fox News. “And I am convinced that man is my son, Ted Cruz. The alternative could be the destruction of America. How does one respond to that? I wouldn't do it the way Trump did, but if you're going to invoke "God's anointed" status you should be expecting just about anything in response. For anyone to presume to be "God's candidate" is a bit much for me. People that say this sort of stuff usually end being busted for [bleep] little kids or something of the sort. "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." TJ "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing". EB

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11163396 05/04/16 Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 29,628 Mi. E efw Campfire Ranger efw Campfire Ranger E Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 29,628 Mi. A better question might be how many care? Anti-Trump people fought hard and lost. Time to focus upon the one thing we can (presumably?) agree upon; beat Hillary! I think there is a good chance that with the UAW here and his America First message our state may FINALLY go red! It's been a while...

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11163903 05/04/16 Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 21,727 Alvadore, Oregon B BMT Campfire Ranger BMT Campfire Ranger B Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 21,727 Alvadore, Oregon It's all about the SCOTUS picks and the second amendment for me. These are things that a POTUS can influence. The national concealed carry is interesting-it's the only way to get freedom for the Calif and NY slaves Trump will be in town Friday Gonna try to get in. "The Church can and should help modern society by tirelessly insisting that the work of women in the home be recognized and respected by all in its irreplaceable value." Apostolic Exhortation On The Family, Pope John Paul II

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11176124 05/10/16 Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,434 West Virginia G gankster Campfire Regular gankster Campfire Regular G Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,434 West Virginia I read in a thread about how would you like your daughter marrying someone like Donald Trump??? I am not so sure that would be as bad as your son or daughter marrying Hillary. But that is just me.

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? gankster #11176128 05/10/16 Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 40,179 wasilla ak watch4bear Campfire 'Bwana watch4bear Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 40,179 wasilla ak Quote I read in a thread about how would you like your daughter marrying someone like Donald Trump??? Read this http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ser-White-House-TRUMP-stripped-bare.html Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?" Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals." MOLON LABE

Re: Have many of you believe Cruz's father was with Oswald before JFK was killed? RAS #11176177 05/10/16 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 7,041 Kalifornia (unfortunately) R RobJordan Campfire Tracker RobJordan Campfire Tracker R Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 7,041 Kalifornia (unfortunately) Originally Posted by RAS I would like a head count please. For me, no. Trump believes it though. Our GOP front runner running against Hillary Clinton. http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-...lts/2016/05/trump-ted-cruz-father-222730 My follow up question later on is, "How many of you believe a kook should have the nuclear codes?" It was in the Inquirer so it has to be true, right? Communists: I still hate them even after they changed their name to "liberals". ____________________ My boss asked why I wasn't working. I told him I was being a democrat for Halloween.