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I finished my first AR build and I am pretty happy with he way it looks. My buddy is getting into Cerakote so he sprayed the upper, lower, and hand guard tungsten. The rest was sprayed with graphite black.

Noveske upper
BCM bcg
AXTS Raptor charging handle
Rock Creek SPR contour .223 Wylde barrel
A2 flash hider
2A Armament hand guard
2A Armament low profile gas block
Odin works bipod mount

Noveske lower
DSG lower parts kit with Magpul furniture
Timney 3lb trigger
Rainier arms enhanced trigger guard

Just need to mount a scope and head to the range

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Nice looking gun!

Still have to laugh when its called a 223 wylde barrel though. Don't know how that got started.

Rock makes some really hummer tubes.



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Nice build congrats!

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I just got in my parts last week to put together my first AR. I bought an upper from Palmetto.
It is a SS 18in barrel in 223 wylde.
I assembled my lower from parts bought locally.

I did not like the really heavy trigger.
I was accurate ok at 100 yards, but did not shoot farther yet. only shot that one day.
I came home and ordered a 3-lb timney trigger for $180 from Cheaper than Dirt.
It arrived yesterday.
Just installed it.
Tested it, much nicer.

Looking forward to going back to the range and firing some 300yd targets.

For my scope, I had a Leupold VX-3 CDS laying around and put that on it.

I suppose I've ended up with a fairly good bench rifle, but really want to go out west and shoot some coyotes and prairie dogs. We have not much of either in Mississippi.

We do, however, have hogs and I plan to try to go hunt some of those soon.

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FWIW you can usually find RRA varmint triggers for 60ish bucks on sale... compared to a timney that I've felt they sure smoke em....


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I got a smoking deal on the Timney I installed. I would have never got one if I had to pay full price. I really wanted a Geissele but the price was right on the NIB Timney I bought.

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I run TIMNEY triggers and love them no way does a RR compare.

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Very nice build.......hard to go wrong with a lot of Noveske stuff.........if I would have done it, I'd have gone the extra mile & used a Novesle barrel too.

RRA is more or less OK, Noveske is top shelf.

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Originally Posted by MontanaMan
Very nice build.......hard to go wrong with a lot of Noveske stuff.........if I would have done it, I'd have gone the extra mile & used a Novesle barrel too.

RRA is more or less OK, Noveske is top shelf.

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I know Noveske has good barrels but I have a hard time believing that they are better than a Rock Creek barrel. Ask the guys that run them on their bolt action rifles.

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Noveske's 1-7/ 5.56 chambers are really not all that. Maybe they used to be. I think I had a timney once and I also had an ar gold; they should not be used in an ar.


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Nice looking build!

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Originally Posted by deere2320
I run TIMNEY triggers and love them no way does a RR compare.


Yeah... I'll disagree till the day I die. An RRA tuned up will beat a flipping timney all year long.

But I'm a trigger snob and then I know how to tune a money saving RRA if it actually needs much tuning.

But then some folks never get used to a 2 stage which is a shame.


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Originally Posted by win7stw
Originally Posted by MontanaMan
Very nice build.......hard to go wrong with a lot of Noveske stuff.........if I would have done it, I'd have gone the extra mile & used a Novesle barrel too.

RRA is more or less OK, Noveske is top shelf.

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I know Noveske has good barrels but I have a hard time believing that they are better than a Rock Creek barrel. Ask the guys that run them on their bolt action rifles.


Its all a matter of personal opinion on a lot of AR stuff. I've never needed more than RRA basic parts and a few things tweaked or swapped out to win up to the national level.

Doesn't mean Noveske isn't great and worth the extra to some. I'm cool with all that.


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Rost would you be willing to tune a RRA trigger for me if needed? I could flip the Timney in a heartbeat. I've never tried a 2 stage trigger. That's why I wanted the geissele trigger

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I used Noveske upper and lower receivers because I got them at really good prices. I also figured if I ever want to sell it I would have a little better resale than say an Anderson

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A two stage trigger is just a fancy name for a trigger with creep. At least to me but each there own.

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The last Timney I tried had almost enough creep to be called a 2 stage.

Jeff are you trying to say you won nationals with a RR barrel?

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no, not RR barrel, but RRA lowers, uppers, some parts...

Only shot Kriegers and then Pac Nors for a different reason back then...

Though I"ve been beaten by wilsons from RRA.

And yes, re-reading I was not totally clear, IMHO you generally don't win with a factory barrel and the most accurate ARs are not "factory"


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Originally Posted by deere2320
A two stage trigger is just a fancy name for a trigger with creep. At least to me but each there own.


I"m thinking you need to learn a few things. You might be in over your head if thats what you think about 2 stage triggers.

How many ARs have you had? How many 2 stage triggers? Ever shoot competition matches?
Ever have an AR trigger with ZERO creep in the trigger period? I"m 99% sure your timney has creep.
How long have you been shooting the AR?
How well do you shoot yours?
How accurate is yours?


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The most accurate AR I have Has a POF barrel which is made by Rock Creek.


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Originally Posted by win7stw
Rost would you be willing to tune a RRA trigger for me if needed? I could flip the Timney in a heartbeat. I've never tried a 2 stage trigger. That's why I wanted the geissele trigger


Unfortunately I can't unless we face to face, I'd have to do it with your lower due to tolerances. and I'm not an FFL....

PM me if you really want to try, the first thing is get one and put it in and tell me what you think....


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Originally Posted by rost495
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Rost would you be willing to tune a RRA trigger for me if needed? I could flip the Timney in a heartbeat. I've never tried a 2 stage trigger. That's why I wanted the geissele trigger


Unfortunately I can't unless we face to face, I'd have to do it with your lower due to tolerances. and I'm not an FFL....

PM me if you really want to try, the first thing is get one and put it in and tell me what you think....


Thanks Rost, I will see if I can find one on sale sometime and try one.

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Originally Posted by rost495
Originally Posted by deere2320
A two stage trigger is just a fancy name for a trigger with creep. At least to me but each there own.


I"m thinking you need to learn a few things. You might be in over your head if thats what you think about 2 stage triggers.

How many ARs have you had? How many 2 stage triggers? Ever shoot competition matches?
Ever have an AR trigger with ZERO creep in the trigger period? I"m 99% sure your timney has creep.
How long have you been shooting the AR?
How well do you shoot yours?
How accurate is yours?



I have not owned an with a 2 stage trigger simply because I don't care for them but that's my choice. I have 6 AR's at the current time and they all have TIMNEY triggers in them and have great trigger pull. I have been shooting AR's for a long time and yes they are accurate if not they are gone. No I do not shoot matches but that doesn't make a guy a great shot but I can definitely hold my own on a tight groups. Just because every Tom Dick and Harry use something doesn't make it great.

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Carry on then, seems like you have to clue to your life.

2 stage is a trigger with creep... LOL.


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I am thinking that most every Tom, Dick and Harry who actually use these guns for a living use 2 stage triggers in them even their marksman rifles. You should try a Geissele NM.

Of course this is the internet where what we do best is make claims and adulterate reality.


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if its a hunting gun just find a RRA Varmint trigger, it is fine for this purpose. If its "home defense" a G2S is good, I have a few of the SSA-E triggers, they are fine as well but in a Colt or DD "home defense" gun the G2S is good.


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I'm slow, but I'm starting to learn at my old age. If I'd have put timneys in our rifles we could have really won big time in competition.

I kinda regret that fact now.


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Just think I'm learning that if I would have used a 2 stage it makes you a top shot.


Use what works for you...

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I'm learning that the sh^it on here is getting funnier by the day.............. wink

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