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You can tell it's a Biesen by the stock shape and styling almost immediately. I ask because once upon a time I was told to make an offer on an alleged Al Biesen rifle. My first two questions were: 1.) Who the fugk is Al Biesen? 2.) How do you know Al Biesen made it? He could only answer the first question so I didn't bother with it. Dave You are stupid.You should have known it was an Al Biesen just by looking at it.No one would lie to you about who made a rifle doncha know??? 
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Anybody can get fooled because these stock makers had styles that evolved over time. Most cut stocks by hand before pantographs,so they were bound to vary some.
An early Biesen might not look exactly like the Biesen stocks popularized and standardized by JOC writings.
Still lots of custom stock makers are pretty distinctive, but any of us can get fooled now and then.
A late Goens or Biesen is easier to distinguish than (say) a Monte Kennedy or Len Brownell.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Anybody can get fooled because these stock makers had styles that evolved over time. Most cut stocks by hand before pantographs,so they were bound to vary some.
An early Biesen might not look exactly like the Biesen stocks popularized and standardized by JOC writings.
Still lots of custom stock makers are pretty distinctive, but any of us can get fooled now and then.
A late Goens or Biesen is easier to distinguish than (say) a Monte Kennedy or Len Brownell. The first stock Biesen did for JOC had white line spacers. Probably induced an attack of Jack's famous "vapors". The next one was an FN 30-06 that O'Connor used extensively, and even that one didn't look much like Biesen's later stuff. Monte Kennedy was a master of styles. His stocks are all over the place esthetically. Most of the Kennedy stocks I've seen are pretty flamboyant. I think Leonard Mews and Keith Stegall did some very distinctive stockwork that would be tough to mistake for anyone else. Some of the wood Stegall used was mind-blowing.
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Mews, Stegall,Brownell,and especially Kennedy were very skilled. Some say Kennedy was the best craftsman.
Who knows?
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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You are stupid.You should have known it was an Al Biesen just by looking at it.No one would lie to you about who made a rifle doncha know??? Gotta love the "I told you so" markets. Dave
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For all of you that want to donate a testicle, or maybe both... Just line up, and I'll snip'em right off for you. Or, if you prefer, a good old rubber band off of the Sunday newspaper. Just trying to be helpful. 
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Thanks for the input on the rifle. Hope to get 4100.00 for it. Scope stays on it. Comes with dies also. 13 1/4 LOP. 22 inch barrel
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Yep. I read JOC for hours. My sons played first person shooter games with modern/fantasy weapons. Milliron, Biesen, Burgess, Fisher, Brownell, Sedgely, walnut, Pre-64 will mean nothing to them. I will gladly fill the void.
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Well its a fine rifle, I would guess 4K give or take 500. The problem will be as it always is finding a buyer for such an item! Better with Documentation, of course its chambered for a 7mm WM while I would not have a problem with that, some may. Why that is I don't know! I don't have the cash in any event, if I did I would give it some serious thought!
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I do believe I would give my right ball for that rifle.
WOW!!!
Blessings,
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so that means I can call you "Lefty"?
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Yep. I read JOC for hours. My sons played first person shooter games with modern/fantasy weapons. Milliron, Biesen, Burgess, Fisher, Brownell, Sedgely, walnut, Pre-64 will mean nothing to them. Add D'Arcy Echols and Gene Similion and Mark Penrod the three absolute best rifle makers of our current generation. Maybe add David Miller too. Those are the absolute best top four. Period.
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Do you have any more details available on the rifle and the scope?
Feel free to PM to donsm70.
Thanks.
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I do believe I would give my right ball for that rifle.
WOW!!!
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so that means I can call you "Lefty"? Or "Half Nuts".....
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Yeh but it's only a Mauser. 
I prefer classic.
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For all of you that want to donate a testicle, or maybe both... Just line up, and I'll snip'em right off for you. Or, if you prefer, a good old rubber band off of the Sunday newspaper. Just trying to be helpful. You are just looking for an excuse to fondle our nuts... 
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Getting somewhere around $4k for that rifle seems about right,although the cost to have something similar built would be 2-3x as much. I fear there will be more fine rifles coming to market in the years to come than there are new buyers to keep the prices up. None of my son's, or their friends, would trade a testical for that gun. (For which my wife, an impatient grandma in waiting, is grateful.) Sounds about right. Kids now days don't have nuts...... Just sayin...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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The rifle found a good home. Thanks
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