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As near as I can tell, they blamed Bush for it.

I lived an hour and a half NORTH of Atlanta in the mountains for 13 years and while digging in our flower bed found a complete clam shell !! I had it authenticated by the Ubiversity of Georgia archeological (geological?) department about 27 years ago....it was documented to be an estimated 270 million years old! That predates the dinosaurs. That was a long long way from either the gulf or Atlantic coasts.

I don't think the "experts" have any idea how long humans have been in North America. They dated the Clovis culture back 13,500 years ago, so they proclaim, "Humans arrived here 13,500 years ago"

Now they've had to add 1000 years to it and it totally blows their entire theory about the Bering Ice Bridge bringing the first humans to North America.

I think it's probably a good bet that quite a few of them figured out that boats float a long time before the Bering Sea froze over. Some made it,...some didn't. But I bet they've been here a lot longer than anyone will ever be able to prove.

For more than a generation, any paleontologist that even suggested there were pre-Clovis populations was pilloried in the scientific community. It was a guaranteed career-ender, and all funding would dry up. It was professional suicide to challenge "settled science".

Feel free to draw parallels to other current academic "hot topics".

They find both mammoth and saber-tooth remains pretty much right where I am, as well as giant tree sloths that were 12' tall or more at the shoulder. All from approx 12k-14k years ago. Blows my mind. That is an absolute blink of an eye in biological time, much less geological time.

When I lived in Albuquerque my buddy and I tromped the Sandias a lot. That's the mountain range right by ABQ... Up at the crest, in the cliffs, there's ton of sea fossils. When you are 10,000 feet in elevation.... many hundreds of miles from any salt water... in the middle of a massive desert.... and finding sea fossils.... that is mind boggling in its own right!

Must have been some kind of, um, flood. Who knew?

I guess it could be sea creatures that developed wings and flew inland, only to die due to unfavorable conditions, for uh, sea things. Yeah, that's it.

If you look at the history of science, it's pretty clear that protecting one's research findings (i.e., turf) isn't done gently. A lot of good science has been thrown on the burn pile. In the real sciences the truth eventually comes out. Sometimes even in the social sciences.

In this case, it's almost a joke that the nothing-before-Clovis mentality went so little challenged for so long.

What does the Koran say about it?

The Koran says kill it, it's relatives, and all the animals associated with it. Strike it from the land for eternity.

Is that verbatim or just another load of god-bothering bull-[bleep]?

Whatever the topic, I'm pretty sure the Koran says to kill it.

And it's relatives.

Oh, and the animals.

Strike them from the land. Smite them actually. Smite them from the land. Basically. Yeah.

So...bull-[bleep] it is then.


whether written by your lying bull-[bleep] artists or their lying bull-[bleep] artists, it makes little difference as it all looks and smells the same.

That there is genius analysis, FB2! I like smiting, myself. I smite all kinds of stuff whenever I can. Hogs, turkeys, varmints. Smite smite smite. Mmmmm.

But I just can't bring myself to phuque goats, so I guess I'll never make a good muslim...

You gotcher self a smite coming partner.

And how is that different from the Old Testament?

The Bible and the Koran are identical. You win. We're done.

Smite away sport.

Correct...both printed on paper, and paper will take [bleep].


And before you get on your high horse...anything written by man will be self-aggrandising, self-congratulatory, and self-enriching.

Particularly by men mincing about in dress', who smell of little boys arses rather than sweat from honest labour.


Have a nice day.

Consider yourself smited. And flushed.

Your god-like awesomeness doesn't seem to be working so well today...maybe you shouldn't be putting yourself in God's place.

And try this on for size, if you lot of closet godlings know God so well...what doe he look like?


And if you cannot answer that than all else you have to say on the subject is fluff to baffle the gullible.

And here I am thinking we're all in a great mood. Have you started drinking already? What time is it there?

Relax big boy, take a deep breath, it's Saturday. The week is over, you can uncoil now.