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Looking to upgrade scope on my 7mm rem mag, primarily an elk/deer/antelope rifle. Want something reliable I can practice out to 600-800. Don't plan to shoot game that far, let's not turn this into an ethics debate. The z800 almost matches the ballistics of my 168 ablr perfectly... Thanks
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Do you want to spin turrets or use a reticle?
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I'm open to either. Don't usually mess with wind adjustments via turret. Have a cds on my 300 and like it.
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I really like my VX-6 2-12x42. And I have Kahles, Zeiss, Swaro, etc. to compare it to. Great duplex, great glass, not too heavy, not too expensive, great eye box and I can fit a CDS turret. DF
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I do like the idea of a lockable turret
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I have a few of the Zeiss 3x15 with the LTT and soar they have been great.I have used them on a antelope hunt and several cold weather(-15) hunts and so far flawless.The Kenton turrets have been spot on.
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I have the 3-15x50 Zeiss HD5 with the Z800 reticle and absolutely love it on my elk rifle a 300 weatherby. It matches my trajectory perfectly and hitting gongs to 700 is pretty routine. Last season I shot a big cow at 550 yards and put 2 bullets in her chest with the same big exit hole. If I were dialing I doubt I could have gotten the shot off in time before she walked over the ridge.
The glass is excellent and the $700 price tag at Euro optic was too good to pass up. My original conquest with the Z600 is now on my 7mm and it works well but not like the hd5 for glass quality.
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Comparable to those I think In quality and power range is the Bushnell LRHS with side focus, turrets and a couple reticle options. These are 30mm and fairly heavy at 24-26 oz but have had very good reviews.
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I'm a big fan of my 5-25x HD5.
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Last season I shot a big cow at 550 yards and put 2 bullets in her chest with the same big exit hole. If I were dialing I doubt I could have gotten the shot off in time It literally takes 1 second to turn a turret to a designated number. Why can people turn a power ring, but get stumped on turning a turret?
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Interesting. Seems to be high opinions of Zeiss glass. The reticle vs turret debate will rage on forever...both have merit.
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I like my z5 3.5x18 really well.
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I really like my VX-6 2-12x42. And I have Kahles, Zeiss, Swaro, etc. to compare it to. Great duplex, great glass, not too heavy, not too expensive, great eye box and I can fit a CDS turret. DF This. VX-6 is a great choice.
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Agreed on the 2-12x42 VX6. Great stuff. [img:left] [/img]
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Gracias Amigo! It's addicting........
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
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I bought a Sako Finnlight chambered for a 7 Rem Mag and mounted a Zeiss HD5 2-10. The Zeiss has the z600 reticle. Works fine.
Hunting success is 90 percent hunter, 10 percent weapon.
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The RZ600 works well but is weird in any kind of general closer-in woodsy type hunting. At least for me it was. The way it just floats without any heavier lines to pull the eye into the center didn't really work for me. I was hunting timber for elk, and when I'd throw my .338 to my shoulder I just really disliked the reticle in that context... the one and only season I hunted with it. However, it DID do well for me out to 600+ yards just target shooting. Guess "YMMV" probably sums it up.
If you want to dial, I'd suggest a scope purpose built for that... Nightforce, Bushy LRHS, etc... otherwise you might be introducing significant error into every dialed shot. Won't matter (probably) out to, I dunno, 450-500 yards or so. Will start to matter after that. That's been my experience anyway.
A reticle really is the simple "no moving parts" solution... greatly reduces the mechanical requirements of the scope to "just hold zero, dammit!"...
The CENTER will hold.
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FÜCK PUTIN!
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JeffO, a week ago you were sucking off Carl Zeiss, now suddenly you recommend Nightforce and Bushnell.
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I like my Conquests very much. They are solid scopes optically and mechanically IME. But they were purchased at a considerably lower price point than the OP is proposing... for what he's gonna spend, if he intends to dial a bunch, I suspect he can do better than what he's got listed.
Would you agree?
The CENTER will hold.
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FÜCK PUTIN!
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