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I got huge shock today when my 98 Toyota did not pass inspection. I am now the proud owner of a scrap heap! It only has 175k on a 4 cylinder.

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Is that one that was on the rust recall a few years back? I thought that year was included. My nephew had one. He took it in for the inspection. When they put it on the hoist to lift it, the frame completely broke. They gave him more money than he'd paid for it 5 years and 75k miles earlier. He came out great on it.

I don't think they ever called it a recall. They called it a buyback.


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OH oh oh oh what a feeling....Toyota!

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My truck was in that program. I did not get the buyback. I got a coating. Now I have nothing!

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I'd be back on Toyota, sounds like the place you took it to, gave you the cheapazz option...if it has expired, is this a frame that can be fixed by welding? you'd think a body shop could do something for ya....

I know my relatives in the south part of the State ( WVA) drive some real rattletraps and get them thru registration every year...

Glad I live where I don't have to deal with 'state inspection' where I live now...

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OH oh oh oh what a feeling....Toyota!


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My truck was in that program. I did not get the buyback. I got a coating. Now I have nothing!


Call Toyota in California and see what they can do, it was obviously not fixed correctly

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Sounds like the frame should have been replaced instead of treated. I'd be calling Toyota.

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My '08 Tacoma had the frame recall and a leaf spring recall, along with the fictitious brake pedal recall.
My leaf springs were replaced 2 weeks ago for free - at their cost of $1425.
I had the vehicle undercoated so my frame was mush better protected than most.
However, its obvious that Toyota used some inferior steel for the frame - most likely Chinese.
I've heard of a couple of Toyotas collapsing on the hoist.


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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
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OH oh oh oh what a feeling....Toyota!


GM owner LMFAO


A quick search shows hundreds of thousands of General Motors pickups recalled in the last five years. Just saying.............


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From my understanding, there was no problem with the steel used in the frame. The problem was that the supplier who made the frames did not do the metal rust treatment to spec and it was not identified until frames starting rusting out years after production. My truck has had the frame and spring recalls done but I have no complaints after 8 yrs/160K miles with nothing but routine maintenance. I was glad for the new springs as I had overloaded the old ones a few times and they were showing their age.

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Originally Posted by bigwhoop
My '08 Tacoma had the frame recall and a leaf spring recall, along with the fictitious brake pedal recall.
My leaf springs were replaced 2 weeks ago for free - at their cost of $1425.
I had the vehicle undercoated so my frame was mush better protected than most.
However, its obvious that Toyota used some inferior steel for the frame - most likely Chinese.
I've heard of a couple of Toyotas collapsing on the hoist.
$1425 to replace rear springs? Holy mackeral! Someone is getting screwed. You can buy a new pair for under $250 and it only take a couple of hours to change them at home in the driveway. A shop with a hoist and good jacks can do it even faster.


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I'm guessing that is a Toyota shop price. I had a broken leaf in one of my rear shocks on my '95 taco, so for chits and giggles I called toyota to get a price on "just" the shocks.

IIRC, it was right at $800. That didn't include my cost for a 6 hr round trip to get them. Add 2.5 hours of shop time each (5 hrs total) @ $125 per hour and one gets close.

Like I said - chits and giggles. Obviously not the route I selected.


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Originally Posted by bigwhoop
My '08 Tacoma had the frame recall and a leaf spring recall, along with the fictitious brake pedal recall.
My leaf springs were replaced 2 weeks ago for free - at their cost of $1425.
I had the vehicle undercoated so my frame was mush better protected than most.
However, its obvious that Toyota used some inferior steel for the frame - most likely Chinese.
I've heard of a couple of Toyotas collapsing on the hoist.


DANA was responsible for the faulty frames.

http://www.reuters.com/article/retire-us-dana-idUSTRE70B7KZ20110112


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Guys where I live drive the old Toyotas with the bullet proof 4 cyl from the early to late '80's. One guy said his was "plated". When I asked him what he meant, they take those rusty frames (before they are too far gone) and weld small metal plates all along the frame. Trucks that are "plated" ride like a brick, but they are able to use them locally and for hunting.

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I got a new frame on my 2001 Tundra, the cost was north of 11K. They also replaced the exhaust, brake lines and radiator. It is really like a new truck.

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That's why the buyback. It costs too much to replace a frame.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
That's why the buyback. It costs too much to replace a frame.


I am not sure why they paid for a new frame on a 12 year old truck. Naturally I am happy, but I still give Toyota credit for fully fixing a subcontractors mistake. I heard that "division" of Dana went out of business so Toyota footed the bill. Local Toyota dealers are constantly replacing frames here in PA. I heard buy backs were slanted to Tacomas more than Tundras. I was told this was due to the unavailability of Tacoma frames.

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I earlier mentioned that my nephew got a great deal on a buy back. He lived in NY but had driven it to Tacoma, WA to visit his parents. He got word of the problem while there and took it to a Tacoma dealer to have it checked. That's where it broke. They paid him immediately and he headed back to NY a couple days later with a near-new pickup.


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Originally Posted by carlm
Trucks that are "plated" ride like a brick...


I've never driven a brick.


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Originally Posted by Reloder28
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Trucks that are "plated" ride like a brick...


I've never driven a brick.


get a plated Taco. wink


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Originally Posted by WVGuy
My truck was in that program. I did not get the buyback. I got a coating. Now I have nothing!


advertise it in Moab Utah........

someone will make a rock crawler outta it...

or a huntin' ranch will use it.....


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Well gotta give Toyota a thumbs up. I took my 02 Tacoma in during the original recall. Dealer said it passed and coated the frame. Just this past fall the truck failed inspection due to holes in the frame.
Took it to dealer after calling corporate , they took pics and was given a full new frame swap.
So now I basically have a new Tacoma with only 120,000 miles on her.


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Well gotta give Toyota a thumbs up. I took my 02 Tacoma in during the original recall. Dealer said it passed and coated the frame. Just this past fall the truck failed inspection due to holes in the frame.
Took it to dealer after calling corporate , they took pics and was given a full new frame swap.
So now I basically have a new Tacoma with only 120,000 miles on her.


Pretty damn impressive customer service. No telling how much that whole procedure cost TOyota.

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I'd have been more impressed if Toyota had simply built the entire frame out of box section as they did with Hi Lux of that era.

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Pretty damn impressive customer service. No telling how much that whole procedure cost TOyota.
Probably a lot less than it would have cost them in sales if they HADN'T done it.


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Pretty damn impressive customer service. No telling how much that whole procedure cost TOyota.
Probably a lot less than it would have cost them in sales if they HADN'T done it.



I would love to see another manufacturer make good on a 15 year old vehicle.

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If your Tundra has marble sized holes that you can see, I can only imagine what it has that you CAN'T see.


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Tundra. The only truck that can 'twerk'.

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My 1995 Tacoma with 135000 miles was bought by Toyota for almost $10,000 in 2008. It was the frame rusting problem program that a guy in the Lowes parking lot told me about. He said go see your dealer and be blown away by what they are going to give you. I do believe there was a cutoff date on the deal. And I was never notified directly by Toyota.

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Originally Posted by atomchaser
From my understanding, there was no problem with the steel used in the frame. The problem was that the supplier who made the frames did not do the metal rust treatment to spec and it was not identified until frames starting rusting out years after production. My truck has had the frame and spring recalls done but I have no complaints after 8 yrs/160K miles with nothing but routine maintenance. I was glad for the new springs as I had overloaded the old ones a few times and they were showing their age.


So put another chassis under it.


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Pretty funny. If it's a Toyota or a Ford that's a pile of $hit, well that's ok. A GM and you guys jump all over it. Laffin. mtmuley

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I got my truck back yesterday I now have a plated frame. Now,
I need it to pass inspection.

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Had a '06 Toyota Tacoma and got rammed from behind, not huge shock but lifted slightly one side. Inspection result from insurance, car is total! fixing the frame would be too expensive.

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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
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OH oh oh oh what a feeling....Toyota!


GM owner LMFAO





I would guess he is just tired of hearing how Toyota is the be all, end all.

Everyone makes dandies, some good, some not. Many folks think everyone needs to affirm their personal decisions


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OH oh oh oh what a feeling....Toyota!


GM owner LMFAO





I would guess he is just tired of hearing how Toyota is the be all, end all.

Everyone makes dandies, some good, some not. Many folks think everyone needs to affirm their personal decisions


Every truck has its ups and downs and tradeoffs are aplenty.

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The previous owner of what is now my '02 Tacoma (with 72xxx miles, not that it really matters) didn't ever take it to a dealer for the whole frame recall thing, which means that by the time I bought it, Toyota was no longer making good on their offer for buyback or replacement. I took matters into my own hands and replaced the frame myself. I found a healthy frame from Tacoma that had been in a rollover accident, and switched 'em out (scrapped the old frame). It was an enormous project and I wouldn't try it without a lot of extra manpower; an automotive lift sure came in handy too. It works though and it's rewarding to have it all in one piece now.


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I heard this week that there is (or forthcoming) a Tundra frame recall for corrosion.


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