Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters Finn Aagaard on the 280 Remington

The .280 AI is the best. it goes to 11.

I'm surprised somebody didn't bring up the .280 Ackley Improved. If the .280's great, the Improved version has to be better! :-)

Not only can the .280 AI match the velocity of 150-grain .270 bullets with 160's, providing all the benefits of another 10 grains of bullet weight, but many handloaders report the .280 AI exceeds the velocity of the 7mm Remington Magnum.

Yah....more pressure than a 7 Rem Mag and less velocity.

I'm betting the 280AI ain't slower than the 280, otherwise it wouldn't be improved.

S Head - I'm betting Bob was talking about less velocity than a 7 RM.
Not slower than 280 !!!

SMH


Jerry

Yes, all Ai'd cartridges exceed their closest magnum counterparts... just ask their owners.

Of course, very few of the people commenting here have used by far the the finest cartridge in this class, the B-29. If they had, all this blathering about the .270, .280 and "improving" would disappear, due to the obvious superiority of .29 caliber.

Unfortunately, the B-29 is so good it was apparently suppressed, probably by the Obama administration, perhaps through BATFE agents on another "secret" mission to disarm the American people.

I think an awful lot of the .270's popularity had to do with JOC and a zippy 130gr loading.

But to say that just because a similar cartridge existed previously, the .280 was doomed to failure is placing too much weight on the logic of buyers and timelessness of a cartridge.

A round has to be in the right place at the right time to succeed. It has to make a splash when the puddle is deep, so to speak. Yeah, there are a bunch of 6.5mm rounds out there. But I wouldn't say he Creedmoor has no chance at becoming Americas most popular 6.5 round. Mostly because of timing.

So, to sum it up, Finn Aagarrd liked the 280 and 7X64. Gun writters are responsible for us having bought all those 280,s but in reality the 280 is not as good as the 270 because you can not buy ammo in the hardware store.
But wait, another gun writer was the reason some continue to buy those 270s when the 30-06 is really the better round.
I will have to agree.

Of course, very few of the people commenting here have used by far the the finest cartridge in this class, the B-29. If they had, all this blathering about the .270, .280 and "improving" would disappear, due to the obvious superiority of .29 caliber.

Unfortunately, the B-29 is so good it was apparently suppressed, probably by the Obama administration, perhaps through BATFE agents on another "secret" mission to disarm the American people.

I think an awful lot of the .270's popularity had to do with JOC and a zippy 130gr loading.

Maybe, but those 130 grain bullets were mostly Noslers & that fact had as much to do with the success of the 270 as did the caliber or JOC's writing...............I kinda doubt he would have gotten as much performance out of cheaper C&C bullets of the day.

MM