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Anyone here have any experience with these ranges. Some have claimed they do it on a daily basis. I know the rimfire guys might have more information and insight.

My best efforts get me to 225 with some repeatability but 700 seems unthinkable once I see the 225 yard groups.

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Ive shot them enough at 300 yards to know the discrepancies that affect accuracy are in the ammo...frequent fliers with conventional stuff...never tried any Eley or the like at those ranges.


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I've only shot groups to 300+.

I've found milk jug size targets are easy money to 300 and beer can size targets are in big trouble around 200 and in.




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I'll shoot at 200 yards every now and then, occasionally try to pop rocks at 250. Like any long range shooting, wind is your enemy, and more so with .22 rimfire.

Used to shoot 200 yard rimfire silhouette a bit and win quite often. I'd watch the wind flags for general behavior before and while I got to the line; is it steady, does it calm down and then pick up and hold steady for a while or is it all over the place?. Generally I'd wait for a lull or a steady breeze and then "machine gun" the targets, i.e. work the bolt, aim and fire as fast as I could to get as many shots out while the wind was consistent.


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What information do you want? Why don't you ask the 'some' who claim to do it?

Certainly a 22LR will fly 700 yards and will eventually hit something. You'd need a lot of elevation in whatever setup you use to send it, but that can be arranged.

People who obsess over group size will probably be disappointed no matter how much effort they put into it.

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People who obsess over group size will probably be disappointed no matter how much effort they put into it.


Yup. Raw accuracy is important, but other qualities are important in the field as well, sometimes more important. My accuracy requirement for a hunting rifle is that it's able to put the first shot in the sticking spot, not that it makes pretty benchrest targets to hang on the wall.


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if its able to make the first shot every last time, then it will make pretty targets also...the two go hand in hand....


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Originally Posted by ingwe
Ive shot them enough at 300 yards to know the discrepancies that affect accuracy are in the ammo...frequent fliers with conventional stuff...never tried any Eley or the like at those ranges.



I have been running a cz. It's nails to 100 and like flav said is about where my accuracy is but past that it gets ifffe fast.

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I fell into the CZ-trap, about 2009-ish. 453 Varmint, 20-moa RT rail, and 20x MD.

Fun stuff out to 300-ish but it doesn't come close to a 54 grin

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Originally Posted by fredIII
I have been running a cz. It's nails to 100 and like flav said is about where my accuracy is but past that it gets ifffe fast.


If things fall apart past 100, then there's a problem. Unless it's wind related, which messes with everyone.

At 311 with a 54 and good ammo...

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No problems just can't see 300 at much less than 2 moa in my gun. 700 seems like an impossible task after fighting wind at 200 and 300.
flave said pop can at 200 milk jug at 300 that was my reference.

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Is the wolf ammo as constant as federal match.

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Low end off the shelf ammo is a horrid affair. A trip to the range with as many brands as one can find is hugely educational. Luck into a brand that drives nails and buy as many cases of that lot as possible.

Yes, wind screws with everyone and more so with the lower velocities. One learns a lot though from taking on challenges. Get out there and shoot.


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Wolf MT is made in Germany. Same plant that makes Lapua rimfire. It's not the highest grade, and has an occasional flier, but much better than most 22lr.

Only five shots, but gives you an idea...

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440 yards - 26' drop



Just an interesting video - Watch the shot with a Cricket starting at 7:16


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l5AlyS8sGs


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Here's some more interesting .22LR info

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMun6pVDBzs

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Shooting 600 Yards with a .22 Long rifle at getting lots of hits on a 3ft square target!

There is a delay of about 2.5-3 seconds from the shot being fired to the sound of the hit traveling back to us, just listen for it and you will distinctly hear the ping off the target downrange a few seconds after the shot goes off. Yes we were shooting next to a power line but the target was next to the base of one of the towers and there wasn't any danger of hitting anything.

After we got sighted in which took an adjustment of a few feet to get on target we took 50 shots and tried to get as many hits as we could. We were fighting the wind the entire time. There are a lot of cuts because we didn't want to shoot when the wind kicked up since it would throw us off target. The hits on the sign look insignificant but we shot the sign later with a .22 pistol and the rounds didn't go through even at close range so that give you an idea of how tough the sign was. The bullet has approximately 29 ft/lbs of energy on impact at 600 yards by our calculations so that's still a decent bit. We had to compensate for 888 inches of Bullet Drop at 600 yards. To do this we had to cant the scope so we could put the cross hairs on the target when we were shooting. Check out my video link at the end of the video for how we setup the rifle more in depth. Here is the link to a video on how to setup a scope to make the shot like we did. How to get the scope angle right for the distance and the rifle ammo etc that you are shooting with long range.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNuUW...


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the ammo you select should be tested for accuracy after it goes subsonic.
As always each 22 has its favorite and suprizes can occur. Once you have chrono the load go to the JBM web site and determine the drops for your load
It will be shortly obvious that most scopes can't be elevated enough to go much fast 400
Depending on why you are doing all this gives different paths to rifle and scope selection but this may help.
20 moa mounts will help a lot
Subsonic ammo will not work,
CCI standard velocity gives good results across a broad range of guns
You do not need an expensive 22
Stock must fit is as important as a long range precision rifle
It is easier to read wind with lower power scopes,
On the other hand I can see the trace when using a NF 8x32 on 32
For what I do the Savage Tac 22 in barrel works best
Tried SVT Kimber and other high dollar, but bolt throw not quite what I am looking for
Usually shoot at clay targets to 500 yds. Sometimes if the deflection angle is high the bullet will not break target or if 0 angle punches a small hole
Because the windage is the name of the game, the shooters technique must be good, but more importantly do not chase your shots with corrections. If missed its because the wind changed slightly, shoot again.
Shooting groups at these ranges will only give you the statistics of the wind changes at the time you shoot


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Originally Posted by Etoh
the ammo you select should be tested for accuracy after it goes subsonic.
As always each 22 has its favorite and suprizes can occur. Once you have chrono the load go to the JBM web site and determine the drops for your load
It will be shortly obvious that most scopes can't be elevated enough to go much fast 400
Depending on why you are doing all this gives different paths to rifle and scope selection but this may help.
20 moa mounts will help a lot
Subsonic ammo will not work,
CCI standard velocity gives good results across a broad range of guns
You do not need an expensive 22
Stock must fit is as important as a long range precision rifle
It is easier to read wind with lower power scopes,
On the other hand I can see the trace when using a NF 8x32 on 32
For what I do the Savage Tac 22 in barrel works best
Tried SVT Kimber and other high dollar, but bolt throw not quite what I am looking for
Usually shoot at clay targets to 500 yds. Sometimes if the deflection angle is high the bullet will not break target or if 0 angle punches a small hole
Because the windage is the name of the game, the shooters technique must be good, but more importantly do not chase your shots with corrections. If missed its because the wind changed slightly, shoot again.
Shooting groups at these ranges will only give you the statistics of the wind changes at the time you shoot


There you go Fred...




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Have shot eggs to 300+ and it's a challenge. I've had 25 shots missing by a hair and whatever minute correction you make seems to be immediately negated by shifting breezes..the 26th will get it but it leaves you scratching your head that's for sure...
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Originally Posted by Etoh

20 moa mounts will help a lot
Subsonic ammo will not work,
CCI standard velocity gives good results across a broad range of guns


CCI Standard is subsonic.

I've got 40.2 mils remaining using a 10x MQ and 75-moa rail, after 50y zero with Wolf. That gets me to nearly 600, but I generally shoot out to a max of 400-500.

The 54 trigger is tough to beat.

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