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I haven't rebarreled one yet but for me it would be getting that small action in stainless good stock and trigger. I've not paid 1000 for one yet either. I've also tore apart almost every Winchester Remington and one vanguard that I've had. I don't think you'd end up with any more money in the kimber than any of the other ones. Or I should I say I wouldn't. I don't mind the stock and trigger so can save that money on kimbers.

True, Pure Wisdom.

Bart,

Interesting discussion on "perfecting" an out of the box gun. We've all done some of that, some of us are more compulsive "fixers" than others...

The most perfect rifle I've ever seen out of the box is an Ed Brown Damara .300 Win Mag that I traded for. Ed's 704 action is CRF and round bolt. He built this gun with a 3.6" mag length box mag, not 3.4" and chambered it for longer COAL, which leaves more powder room in the case.

I know this is off the reservation regarding the topic being discussed, just had to tell you about one of the few, maybe only rifle I've ever had that needed NOTHING done to it.

DF

If Montana Rifle Company would put a featherweight barrel on their 1999 action, I think all the pre-64 and Classic fellows would have a pretty good alternative to the BACO Winchesters they don't like because of the MOA trigger.

Mike, the best of the best were the push feed Fwt. Models from the '80s...

Yup.

Those PF M70's are a sleeper. Because the Pre-64 fans revolted so completely when the Post-64's came out, that gun has been maligned and it's really a good one. No one complains about other PF's, Wby, Rem, etc., even Savage, just the Post-64.

Every Post-64 I've had was very accurate, smooth functioning and about hiccup free. And, they have the three position safety people pay big bucks for on custom 700's and they have the New Haven trigger that so many seem to like.

Kinda squirrely why this is the case, but it is what it is and those guns are out there, waiting to be picked up for a song.

IMO.

DF

I pay no attention and just buy a pre 64. A NH Classic is OK with modifications.

The only other M70 clone that holds any interest for me is a Dakota.I think they are nice.

The new ones, I'm ambivalent...mostly because i don't need them for anything.

I picked one up a while back. It has the smoothest bolt travel of any M70 I own. But it's been put away for a while now because we've been having absolutely lousy weather and I promised the old fellow I got it from that I wouldn't subject it to our Cameroon-like weather - very hot and very wet.

And the Poobah smiled.....

This thread is going have me pulling out such a rifle in 7x57 and shooting her some this weekend............with NBTs

My first deer rifle was a M70 Lightweight in 30.06. I foolishly sold it in 1998 for $375.

They gotta get out and run every once in a while.

The only Achilles heel I see with the Post-64 is the extractor in the right bolt lug. I've seen photos of those blown out with an overload.

Once that happens, one has to put a Sako/M-16 type extractor above the lug. I'm sure that changes the ejection angle, but seems to work.

That's one place where the "three rings of steel" are superior.

DF

Call it like it is...

No varnish...

DF

D'Arcy's making rifles with 700 actions now?

All the 700 ribbing notwithstanding, for me it's a matter of looks (like the safety and bolt handle looks), but the real show stopper is I just can't accept a bolt that can't be locked. As to the Classics, all the ones I own, shoot every bit as well as my pre-64s.

Well, maybe stocks...

I change out my older 700's so the bolt won't lock. I like to load and unload with the safety on. Don't have any new 700's, not looking for any.

I'm a M-70 fan, don't get me wrong, but the 700's do have their place.

DF

The Echols Shrike is the stock Darcy markets for the Remington 700. Like the Legend for the M70, it is very nice.

That's why I bought one!

Bob

I agree completely. Quality . . . not quantity.