|
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 14,654
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 14,654 |
http://www.opticsplanet.com/steiner-1-4x24mm-p4xi-30mm-tactical-riflescope.html10.3"---17.3oz The rep said that they're shipping now. There are 15% off coupons for Optics Planet floating around the interwebs, which brings the price down to $500ish.
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,807
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,807 |
Any idea what the dot subtension is?
Islam is a terrorist organization.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 3,875
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 3,875 |
I have the SWFA and think it is an awesome scope. It replaced my Leupold AR and Vortex PST. Even better when you buy them at Christmas time.
Good Shooting!
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 14,654
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 14,654 |
Any idea what the dot subtension is? .76" at 100 yards.
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,807
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,807 |
Islam is a terrorist organization.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,186 Likes: 2
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,186 Likes: 2 |
This is a 1-5 Leupold that gets used for hogs and deer a lot. Wouldn't change it a bit. The illuminated reticle makes it perfect in low light, especially on dark colored hogs.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 2,621
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 2,621 |
The new Trijicon Accupower scopes look good. Reticles look like they have improved over the accupoint's.
John 8:12 "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 18,354 Likes: 1
Campfire Ranger
|
OP
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 18,354 Likes: 1 |
Blue, this may be a dumb question but why do you think it's worth double what the SWFA 1-4 classic costs?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,196 Likes: 1
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,196 Likes: 1 |
Just by reading his review, I'd say clear and crisp with an aimpoint bright dot and a great eye box would be my guess.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 14,654
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 14,654 |
Blue, this may be a dumb question but why do you think it's worth double what the SWFA 1-4 classic costs? I've never even held a SWFA 1-4, so I don't know if it's worth double what they cost or not. I was underwhelmed with the SS 1-6....are the SS and SWFA the same? I need FOV, eyebox, clarity, a useable reticle, decent weight and if it has a dot I want it to be bright. I evaluate an optic in that order, but they're all equally important to me. The Steiner impressed me in every category. Then the guy told me it was $500 and I thought, "Wow, I'd spend $500 on this. That's a good deal." And that's the entirety of the thought I put into it.
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 18,354 Likes: 1
Campfire Ranger
|
OP
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 18,354 Likes: 1 |
granted the SWFA reticle is "OK" not the greatest, however I value durability and consistency as well, this is where the little SWFA seems best. Yet thanks for the heads up on the Steiner, maybe I will buy one of these at Thanksgiving instead of another swfa.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,760
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,760 |
anyone got any comments regards 1-4 scopes? Primarily low light use, that is the biggest use for it. Someone said the accupoint might not work as good if you ever used it with a light on pigs or something like that. I have a Schmidt & Bender, which is likely the better, if not best, in this class. But, if night hunting, something simple, rugged, and much cheaper, like a LEU 6x42, works very well. Even a 4x33, combined with a good reticle is rather bright. If spending big bucks, likely NV/Thermal would be the way to go
Last edited by GaryVA; 06/13/16.
�I've never met a genius. A genius to me is someone who does well at something he hates. Anybody can do well at something he loves -- it's just a question of finding the subject.�
- Clint Eastwood
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 23,159 Likes: 6
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 23,159 Likes: 6 |
I haven't seen mentioned the Vortex Crossfire II 1-4x. I had to call a halt at the amount of money I was pouring into my recent (first) AR build but still wanted a decent scope that wouldn't break the bank. I ruled out the real bottom of the line el-cheapo scopes, lusted after the high end wünderscopes, but opted for the Vortex (illuminated reticle) with a solid cantilevered mount. I honestly couldn't be happier. For a skinch over $300 all-up I feel it represents a fair value for the money.
"You can lead a man to logic, but you cannot make him think." Joe Harz "Always certain, often right." Keith McCafferty
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 18,354 Likes: 1
Campfire Ranger
|
OP
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 18,354 Likes: 1 |
for a black Friday $299 dollar device, I drop tested the SWFA 3 times onto the ground scope first in an 8 pound rifle held in an LT-104 and then shot it into the black at 100. The optics and eye box do indeed leave a lot to be desired on the swfa 1-4 but the mechanics are really very good. I chased glass for about 10 years but gave up on this. Wish a decent thermal was not $5,000.00, I am stuck at "wicked light" prices.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 7,132
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 7,132 |
Have any of you tried the Bushnell AR 1-4?
I have one still in the package collecting dust that I thought about putting on a new build in an Aero mount.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,312 Likes: 1
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,312 Likes: 1 |
I will keep my eye on the Steiner. The reticle appears to be decent.
NRA Life Member
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 14,654
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 14,654 |
Have any of you tried the Bushnell AR 1-4?
I have one still in the package collecting dust that I thought about putting on a new build in an Aero mount. You mean the one that was going for $200ish? It sucked. I'd get a used Leupold 1-4 for that price.
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 18,354 Likes: 1
Campfire Ranger
|
OP
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 18,354 Likes: 1 |
|
|
|
|
612 members (1100mag, 10gaugeman, 01Foreman400, 12344mag, 10gaugemag, 60 invisible),
19,073
guests, and
1,353
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,194,979
Posts18,539,980
Members74,052
|
Most Online21,014 8 minutes ago
|
|
|
|