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People crying "foul" and "irrelevant." The commercial is what it is.....shows how things that dent steel will punch a hole through aluminum. There's no big mystery to this. Maybe some would rather see a demonstration with construction blocks made of wood or foam? Or a lunchbox instead of a tool box. Whatever the brand name, I'd not want a pu truck bed made of aluminum.


I always see cinder blocks dropped in 1/2 ton pickup beds with a bucket loader .

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You will be relegated to driving old pickups then because lightweight materials will be required to meet the FEd Govt fuel economy mandates. Sidewalls of the box BTW are steel reinforced.



You don't like that a - Ford - can be so easily damaged. But doesn't have to be cinder blocks, different things get dropped by mistake. Don't be so sure about all future pickups having aluminum beds like that one if it's so easy to punch holes in them. Matters not to me, I like my truck just fine and have no desire for a new one.

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It is SO much fun getting new Ford owners' panties in a wad. What makes it fun is how easy it is to do......


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People crying "foul" and "irrelevant." The commercial is what it is.....shows how things that dent steel will punch a hole through aluminum. There's no big mystery to this. Maybe some would rather see a demonstration with construction blocks made of wood or foam? Or a lunchbox instead of a tool box. Whatever the brand name, I'd not want a pu truck bed made of aluminum.


I always see cinder blocks dropped in 1/2 ton pickup beds with a bucket loader .

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I'd not want a pu truck bed made of aluminum.


You will be relegated to driving old pickups then because lightweight materials will be required to meet the FEd Govt fuel economy mandates. Sidewalls of the box BTW are steel reinforced.



You don't like that a - Ford - can be so easily damaged. But doesn't have to be cinder blocks, different things get dropped by mistake. Don't be so sure about all future pickups having aluminum beds like that one if it's so easy to punch holes in them. Matters not to me, I like my truck just fine and have no desire for a new one.


Chevy is about to do it as will the other manufactuers. Ford got a huge head start on them. ThisAluminum truck that is the safest by a large margin in any crash test and gets 24 mpg and will outpull about any V8 engine what is not to like? I don;'t know many people that have 50k + pickups that knowingly abuse them but I work hard for my money and some people don't know how to take care of their equipment. If I wanted a work truck I would have bought a base model XL with rubber floor mats.

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Originally Posted by Bighorn
It is SO much fun getting new Ford owners' panties in a wad. What makes it fun is how easy it is to do......

Nah easier getting a New GMC owners panties in a wad for sure.

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It is SO much fun getting new Ford owners' panties in a wad. What makes it fun is how easy it is to do......

Nah easier getting a New GMC owners panties in a wad for sure.


Well GM does it for them.


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Call me old fashion if you want, but I wish they still made wood floors for pickup beds.


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Don't most people who buy a new/expensive pickup spend a little more $$ on a bed liner and Husky liners for the interior?

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Originally Posted by Ackman
People crying "foul" and "irrelevant." The commercial is what it is.....shows how things that dent steel will punch a hole through aluminum. There's no big mystery to this. Maybe some would rather see a demonstration with construction blocks made of wood or foam? Or a lunchbox instead of a tool box. Whatever the brand name, I'd not want a pu truck bed made of aluminum.


I still say that there's no way that an empty tool box falling off the side rail would punch a hole in the bed unless that tool box is made of tungsten.

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So the ad is a total fabrication? Good to know, as Ford can now sue the pants off of GM for that. Alert us when the lawsuit hits the courts. The box did hit at the worst possible angle, and the ad said the box was empty. I wonder what would happen if it was full of tools?

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And then, there's this........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLFe8g7E2sc


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So the ad is a total fabrication? Good to know, as Ford can now sue the pants off of GM for that. Alert us when the lawsuit hits the courts. The box did hit at the worst possible angle, and the ad said the box was empty. I wonder what would happen if it was full of tools?


Well a GM driver would have to carry one FULL of tools. I'll give you that.


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So the ad is a total fabrication? Good to know, as Ford can now sue the pants off of GM for that. Alert us when the lawsuit hits the courts. The box did hit at the worst possible angle, and the ad said the box was empty. I wonder what would happen if it was full of tools?


Well a GM driver would have to carry one FULL of tools. I'll give you that.



I made the mistake of buying a GM product, never the [bleep] again.


LOL when GM corporate gets their panties in a wad over a superior design and they as well as everyone else will have to go to lightwieght alloy. Have they fixed the AFM issues yet or the cheap plastic mix doors in the AC that strip their plastic gears yet?

According to US News ratings GM is now 3 and 4 behind Dodge at #2.

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Me too. My one GM purchase cause it to be my one and only GM purchase.


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Originally Posted by tzone
Me too. My one GM purchase cause it to be my one and only GM purchase.


I test drove a Silverado before I bought my new F150 since I had nothing better to do. Problem with that was I drove the F150 first grin

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I'm not trying to turn it into a GM vs ford thing, like some are. I'm just asking if you think the ad is fake? If so, Ford has a case. Kind of like when the news media has to use a model rocket motor to get a 73-88 gm to burst into flames with a side impact. Fake.

FWIW, I think aluminum will become more common in all auto panels as time goes on. I bet they ALL end up doing it. Trimming off over 500 pounds of weight from the truck increases its cargo and tow capacity and it gets better mileage. Plus no rust. Of course, if a tool box dropping from the bed rail can puncture it, there may be a bit more engineering needed for trucks that actually get used.

So, is it fake?

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The ad isn't fake, it's just carefully engineered. I'm confident that if they wanted Ford could engineer a test to show just how deficient the GM is with respect to some specific design feature. It's no different than the video Ford put out years ago on the Tundra's bed (youtube Toyota Tundra bed bounce)

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Originally Posted by ajmorell
The ad isn't fake, it's just carefully engineered.


Exactly. It's a silly, contrived scenario to make a point that's pointless.

That many blocks would be loaded on a pallet by any respectable yard.


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The block loading was obviously a bit silly, but it was the tool box that wasn't.

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K1500,

When all is said and done, most trucks on the market today are really nothing more than urban/suburban grocery haulers and status symbols- most of the people buying them will never use them to do real work, and could care less if the beds, bodies, and frames are made of steel, aluminum, or swiss cheese.

You gotta admit, tho, the constant back and forth between Ford, GM, and Ram owners is nothing if not entertaining........


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Originally Posted by K1500
The block loading was obviously a bit silly, but it was the tool box that wasn't.

Yeah...IF the tool box was as represented.

The weight saving should translate into additional fuel economy. Don't know if that's true though.

I'd get a bed liner if it was me.

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