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...showed up yesterday. At almost $2 a pop, I am hoping I never have to shoot more than the 3 that are left over after filling the 17 round magazine! Certainly hope I never find myself shooting these at a grizzly....Yikes. But having 17 rounds of extreme penetrator will give me that warm fuzzy false feeling of security when bowhunting and bugling in elk (and whatever else shows up to the call).

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I carry the Buffalo Bore 220 grain Hard Cast loads in my Glock 20 when bow hunting in bear country in the Lower 48. They cost a lot less, and function great in all of my 10mm pistols. Just my 2 cents, though. I've never had to draw down n a bear, but they work great on rather large feral hogs at the Ranch.

I'm always just a little skeptical when some company I've never heard of comes up with some new "magic" "penetration" loads. YMMV. I sure hope you never have to find out first hand how they work!

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The guy on youtube (22 plinkster) shooting the extreme penetrator through the 2" bulletproof glass sold me on them. Hot knife/butter is a good description.

Either way lets hope I never have to find out if they will zip through a big thick skull with the same ease.


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How many of those 17 rounds do you suppose you can shoot accurately before you are (literally) in the bear's face?


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They look like a new take on the Devel muzzle loader bullets from 15-20 years ago.
I may try some just for off season curiosity.


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Originally Posted by ironbender
How many of those 17 rounds do you suppose you can shoot accurately before you are (literally) in the bear's face?


As many as it takes?


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I've called in coyote and cougar while calling elk. Never considered shooting them with anything but the bow.


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Last season a fella ran into a griz while bow hunting. The only thing he had to point at the bear was his hand. I would imagine he would have rather had a 10mm with those bullets than his hand to shove in the bears mouth.

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Originally Posted by Fireball2
I've called in coyote and cougar while calling elk. Never considered shooting them with anything but the bow.


Ever called in a grizzly? Happened here about 5 miles from my house a few years back. Two guys covered in elk urine cow and calf calling and a sow and couple of year old cubs charged in and mauled the crap out of one dude. Im not worried about a coyote or lion I could fend off with a stick.


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Originally Posted by ironbender
How many of those 17 rounds do you suppose you can shoot accurately before you are (literally) in the bear's face?


I'd be wondering the same if I bought a box, filled up a magazine, and had three left over. That leaves none having been actually shot.

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Originally Posted by justin10mm
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How many of those 17 rounds do you suppose you can shoot accurately before you are (literally) in the bear's face?


As many as it takes?


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While moose hunting one time, I "called in" a brown bear.

Ok, he came out in the meadow some 60 yards away. Big one too- probably a 10 footer. Looked like 20.... since he had been messing around 50 yards behind me for almost an hour! Obviously he thought I was a bull, or he wouldn't have shown himself. Kinda puffed my chest as a moose caller.....Kinda tightened the sphincter, too. Obviously only one of us was hunting moose... I was the one with the .338WM.

I'd thought he was a cow moose- no antler sounds. Mutual mistake.

When I yelled at him at about 30 yards, he did a double take and hit the thick brush going away fast. Big V- through the 10' high second growth birch, an explosion of debris as he plowed through a big rotten deadfall, all of which I saw, then he stopped about 100 yards from me, huffing deep breaths, swinging his head from side to side ("Jesus! That was a HUMAN out there!")

He was right under my partner's 30 foot-high tree-stand, and he told me about it from his birds-eye vantage point. He'd seen it all! Paul busted out laughing out-loud, and then that bear totally freaked out! Last seen, he was just a blur going away.

The time a big sow brownie walked into me (same kind of deal), with 3 tiny, of-the-year cubs trailing behind her was interesting also....

And the time a couple year old cubs tried to make noseys with my Lab in my back yard. 20 feet from me to the dog, another 15 to the cubs, another 20 or so to the sow, who was definitely avoiding eye contact with me as she told her kids to get the hell back in the woods where they belonged. She was NOT happy with them!

We both knew if she did make eye contact with me, she would have to do something about it. And I'd have to whomp up on her with my garden trowel. We kinda backed around 180 degrees of building like that until I reached the door. At that point, the dog was on his own!

Bearanoi is way over-rated. And yes, I carry. A rifle or shotgun. Convenience can also be over-rated.

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