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Hard not to like a good .30-06 IMHO. A 165 grain Game King is a stud, over a stiff load of IMR-4350.

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wilks, that powder and the Sierra 165 HPBT was one of my 2 favorite loads for my old 06 when I used it quite a bit.
It probably has been 10 years or more since I fired a round though it..

My 7mm-08 has killed a couple deer and antelope.. But mostly I plink water jugs with it, and keep it here for the grandkids to hunt with..


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Ya know, all things considered, if I had to pick the "perfect" all-around hunting round for everything I do, antelope to elk, it would be the 7mm-08. A truly great, and supremely balanced round. It just hasn't been around long enough to achieve the status of the 270 or 308. But it's just as good. And even better in some regards.


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That's what I do with mine. With 150 gr. TTSX bullets, mine likes 52 grs. of IMR 4166. With the 125-130 gr. stuff, 47.5 grs. of H4895.
Real recoil reduction from the 180-200 gr. bullets with 58-59 grs. of powder. E

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As this is now a 30-06 vs 7-08 thread, I'll throw in...

The 308 is better than both because it puts nice big .30 calibre holes in game just like the 30-06, with the same mild recoil of the 7-08.

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I've seen 30-06 bullet weights as light as 110 gr so I imagine it can be loaded for anyones recoil sensitivity.

Regarding 7x57 vs 7mm-08, ammo availability would be the deciding factor for me. I haven't seen ammo in 7x57 on the shelf at any of my local gun shops. Even 7mm-08 isn't readily available here.

30-06, 270, 308, 30-30, 7mm mag are the big game cartridges I see most available.


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Here's some 30-06 load work I did on my sporter.

Loaded a moly'd 208 Amax over 54.0 gr RL-17. Runs about 2650 fps in the 20" bbl.

Started off kissing lands at 3.55", backing off 10/thou at a time. Not bad kissing, but got better about 30/thou off.


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My 308 is my big gun now. The 243 is the utility rifle, and the AR is for pigs and "social work."

I shoot Tikkas with limbsavers, and that's about as light as I want to go anymore.


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Originally Posted by Pharmseller

And did I mention the recoil? Holy Hannah, I think I sprained something.
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aww, didja git '06 PTSD ?

Any relation to Gersh [bleep] ?

“It felt to me like a bazooka — and sounded like a cannon…The recoil bruised my shoulder, which can happen if you don’t know what you’re doing. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable.”

please turn in your man card at the nearest firing range ASAP,


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why is this site "bleeping" out the sissy reporters real name ? Ge rsh Kun tzman .....
the Campfire going full Libtardocrat ?

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Originally Posted by efw
Nice work there Pharmseller I think that last load is the ticket; I've grown addicted to Hunter!

I, like you and others, more often reach for much smaller cartridges these days, but I added an extension and decelerator to my trusty old 06 and LOVE it.

I've been running 168 gr NBTs & Hunter. It's my most trusted rifle and always comes on my hunts as a backup.


I like to name my best loads. I load 168 NBT for my brother with 60.0 gr Hunter, we call the load "Tatonka" after he shot a bison through both ear holes with it.




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Originally Posted by Swamplord
Originally Posted by Pharmseller

And did I mention the recoil? Holy Hannah, I think I sprained something.
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aww, didja git '06 PTSD ?

Any relation to Gersh [bleep] ?

“It felt to me like a bazooka — and sounded like a cannon…The recoil bruised my shoulder, which can happen if you don’t know what you’re doing. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable.”

please turn in your man card at the nearest firing range ASAP,


It recoiled so bad I sprained my cooter.

Happy now?




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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Originally Posted by Swamplord
Originally Posted by Pharmseller

And did I mention the recoil? Holy Hannah, I think I sprained something.
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aww, didja git '06 PTSD ?

Any relation to Gersh [bleep] ?

“It felt to me like a bazooka — and sounded like a cannon…The recoil bruised my shoulder, which can happen if you don’t know what you’re doing. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable.”

please turn in your man card at the nearest firing range ASAP,


It recoiled so bad I sprained my cooter.

Happy now?




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hahaha, I recommend you have a cooterologist take a look at your injury !

just messin with ya although I find it ridiculous when recoil is excessively over exaggerated with mild recoiling cartridges, I've hunted and played with big 30 cal magnums for many years, most of my loads were max loads with 200 gr bullets at 3300 fps and 180 gr at 3500 fps but never gave recoil any thought as I understood that's what rifles do when you fire off a live round, now I shoot 236 gr bullets at 3200 fps in 30 cal and much heavier in 338 cal and 375 cal in cases with 110 gr to 160 gr in capacity and I still haven't died from recoil

America is getting so vaginalized even the shooters are whining like limp wristed sissies about recoil, rifle weight and barrel length, now you see adult grown men shooting with ladies and childrens size rifles and cartridges, then bragging about how well they shoot,

it's so pathetic that nobody even knows which bathroom to take a dump in anymore


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Originally Posted by wilkeshunter
Hard not to like a good .30-06 IMHO. A 165 grain Game King is a stud, over a stiff load of IMR-4350.



That sounds too oldschool to me.. laugh


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Originally Posted by Brad
Ya know, all things considered, if I had to pick the "perfect" all-around hunting round for everything I do, antelope to elk, it would be the 7mm-08. A truly great, and supremely balanced round. It just hasn't been around long enough to achieve the status of the 270 or 308. But it's just as good. And even better in some regards.



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Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

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Maybe its not a matter of someone being afraid of recoil...science proves that you can often get the same or better performance from a sleeker bullet bullet in a smaller cartridge. Why sit behind a 30.06 shooting 180's, when you can sit behind a 6mm with 105's?




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Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
Maybe its not a matter of someone being afraid of recoil...science proves that you can often get the same or better performance from a sleeker bullet bullet in a smaller cartridge. Why sit behind a 30.06 shooting 180's, when you can squat behind a 6mm with 105's?




Fixed it for ya. grin


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Originally Posted by Swamplord
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Originally Posted by Swamplord
Originally Posted by Pharmseller

And did I mention the recoil? Holy Hannah, I think I sprained something.
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aww, didja git '06 PTSD ?

Any relation to Gersh [bleep] ?

“It felt to me like a bazooka — and sounded like a cannon…The recoil bruised my shoulder, which can happen if you don’t know what you’re doing. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable.”

please turn in your man card at the nearest firing range ASAP,


It recoiled so bad I sprained my cooter.

Happy now?




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hahaha, I recommend you have a cooterologist take a look at your injury !

just messin with ya although I find it ridiculous when recoil is excessively over exaggerated with mild recoiling cartridges, I've hunted and played with big 30 cal magnums for many years, most of my loads were max loads with 200 gr bullets at 3300 fps and 180 gr at 3500 fps but never gave recoil any thought as I understood that's what rifles do when you fire off a live round, now I shoot 236 gr bullets at 3200 fps in 30 cal and much heavier in 338 cal and 375 cal in cases with 110 gr to 160 gr in capacity and I still haven't died from recoil

America is getting so vaginalized even the shooters are whining like limp wristed sissies about recoil, rifle weight and barrel length, now you see adult grown men shooting with ladies and childrens size rifles and cartridges, then bragging about how well they shoot,

it's so pathetic that nobody even knows which bathroom to take a dump in anymore



You should write this in a Valentine's Day card and send it to yourself.





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