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Hey Men, which 10mm do you like on the 1911 platform?
I'm leaning towards the RIA double stack, can anyone tell me if this model is one that offers more support on the case head?
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I'd go Dan Wesson, Colt, or Kimber - in that order.
If I wanted a double stack 10, it'd be a Glock or an EAA.
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+1 on the DW...wish I had found it first!
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I owned a Kimber Stainless Target for a few years and shot it quite a bit; I was very happy with the dependability and accuracy with a variety of handloads. Two things I didn't like about it as it came in the box: It came with a standard 16.5 pound recoil spring (which I quickly replaced with a 22-pound spring); and it had an extended ejector. I'm not sure why Kimber used that combination, unless they thought everybody was using Short & Weak loads. Until I replaced the ejector with a standard length one I was spending a lot of money on bus fare to travel and pick up my empties.
I sold the Kimber to a friend a few months ago because I bought a Dan Wesson Silverback. OH MAMA! No changes needed there!
I think the original Colt Delta Elites were a joke if you planned on a steady diet of actual 10mm loads. Of course, Colt built a lot of junk during that time period. I don't have any experience with current production Deltas.
I'm curious as to how well the RIA would hold up under a steady diet of 10mm. The few people bragging on their RIA 10mms on various forums don't strike me as high-volume shooters or handloaders.
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Thanks men, sorry to start something then have to run off, I was summoned by wifey to the pea patch, gotdamn it's humid out there today.   Think I saw a DW Razorback in 10mm listed the other day somewhere for about 1400 bucks iirc. Don't know if I can get by the double stack option, reason is, a bud is after my Sig 226 tac-ops in 40 cal, if I sell, I may as well go up in power with equal capacity.
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Yeah, but with the 10mm you don't need the extra capacity, because you only have to shoot it/them once.
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If they'll stand still long enough. 
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I owned a Kimber Stainless Target for a few years and shot it quite a bit; I was very happy with the dependability and accuracy with a variety of handloads. Two things I didn't like about it as it came in the box: It came with a standard 16.5 pound recoil spring (which I quickly replaced with a 22-pound spring); and it had an extended ejector. I'm not sure why Kimber used that combination, unless they thought everybody was using Short & Weak loads. Until I replaced the ejector with a standard length one I was spending a lot of money on bus fare to travel and pick up my empties.
I sold the Kimber to a friend a few months ago because I bought a Dan Wesson Silverback. OH MAMA! No changes needed there!
I think the original Colt Delta Elites were a joke if you planned on a steady diet of actual 10mm loads. Of course, Colt built a lot of junk during that time period. I don't have any experience with current production Deltas.
I'm curious as to how well the RIA would hold up under a steady diet of 10mm. The few people bragging on their RIA 10mms on various forums don't strike me as high-volume shooters or handloaders. Dang Mesabi, I missed this post, Thanks, a lot of good info here, will definitely have to find a 10mm that offers the most case head support, still don't know if any listed above are the ones that offer that, have heard the same on the older Colt DE's, I'll most certainly load my 10mm like a 10mm.
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Didn't figure you'd be using many powder-puff loads! The Kimber and Dan Wesson both have ramped barrels with good case head support, far more than the Colt.
I also wanted an adjustable rear sight on my guns just because of the variety of loads I was running through them. (I've settled on a 180 grain Gold Dot at 1200 fps as a "standard".)
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Correct, didn't settle for powder puff on that little LW Commander in 38 Super you sold me either, 125 gr copper Barns' at 1341 are the real deal.  That's what I was looking for and didn't know it, ramped vs non-ramped, 180 GD's at 1200 would be a damn good place to be for SD I'd wager.
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XTP's work good, too. They can both be pushed harder, but the increased recoil/decreased controllability and possible increased wear on the gun isn't worth it to me... Besides, I don't think that anything that needs shooting is going to notice a 100 fps difference. I probably DO need to try a Barnes copper in the 10mm, just in the interest of science and mankind's development. 
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10-4 on the XTP's they are a helluva bullet, and agreed on the -100, they wont care too debate it. The Barnes will let you shoot a softer recoiling lighter bullet with equal or in some cases better penetration, they are near or at the top of barrier penetration across the caliber spectrum too.
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Colt just updated the delta with a beavertail, Novaks, and an extended thumb safety. I have always wanted a delta, but didn't want to send another gun off to get all that stuff done. Now it comes with everything from the factory. I'm not sure if the lack of a ramped barrel is a problem. Underwoods sells a delta load that is a 180  1240 whereas the regular loading is a 180 1300. Not sure the extra 60fps is that big of a deal. I am sure the Dan Wesson is nice as well. If I wanted a double stack I would (and did) get a Glock.
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But Safariman said that his Phirripine RIA was just as nice as all the more expensive custom and semi custom 10s on the market.
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The DW Siverback is sure a nice gun and is should be for $1800 or so dollars.
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If you're wanting double stack and a fully supported chamber, then it's the EAA Witness 10mm or a Glock with an aftermarket barrel.
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And they're so expensive, you can't afford to miss! , WORD!
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K1500, I have always thought the Colt to be the nicest looking gun, but, I will try like hell to avoid the brass smiley faces, that chit makes me nervous. 
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