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Odd you mention that Patrick...first time I shot even the puny .416 Rigby my first thought was that it would be no good for charging dangerous game.... All I could see were little stars and tweety birds... Question is,did it knock any sense into you? Yeah...it made me not like anything over .400 ....... I also shot a .416 Wby. Mag...Dat fugger shot GOOD! ( Don't tell jorge.....) That is Ross Seyfried's favorite caliber for Buffalo.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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I hope you didn't read the whole post...especially the last line! I also shot a .416 Remington and found it obtrusive...a .470 was better in my mind...but not by much. A .458 Lott kicked me into submission and all tolled I found my recoil tolerance ended at .375 which I could manage very well. That was years ago and now my recoil tolerance is quite a bit lower. Went to the Doctor 15 years ago for some painful shoulder problems, he X-rayed... " Looks like you've got bone spurs in the Bursis and traumatic Arthritis...from some type of repeated trauma...." " Would that come from shooting a .375 a couple thousand times?" I axed him... "Yep....that would do it!"
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I've been very fortunate so far. Aside from not being that recoil sensitive, I do have my limits and that was an 8lb 458 Lott. Otherwise, I can shoot my 450NE off the bench a few times and stuff like 416 Rigbys are not a problem at all. I consider the 375s to be rather mild and my 340 Weatherby, although it has a very fast, sharp recoil, is also not a problem.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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Brave man, Single shot! Yeah...but he had his Bubba Buddy ready to rock! Bubba Buddy's will keep ya out of the deep doo-doo.....just sayin'....
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The 375HH is the most powerful rifle for what you feel in recoil ever made.
Capable of performing any task, while managing to be gentle on your anatomy.
The Holland & Holland, It's the greatest return on your recoil investment
www.huntingadventures.netAre you living your life, or just paying bills until you die? When you hit the pearly gates I want to be there just to see the massive pile of dead 5hit at your feet. ( John Peyton)
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http://rs53.pbsrc.com/albums/g61/BlueRIO7/DSCF0513_zpsvbgqaens.jpg~c100 Some times Big is Better
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I shot a .577 double. Once. After a while I commented to folks that if an elephant was charging me, and the rifle was laying in front of me, I'd have to think about it... I've shot my .475 Turnbull & .458 off the bench - both with 500gr full-house loads - and it was not fun, but not horrible. The .475 only weighs about 9lbs, 2oz with scope. I think my recoil limit is somewhere between .475 & .577 You can get 350gr TTSX for a .416; I think those would have to be fine for anything except elephant. , You was at a nice 28 degree pitch after the BOOOMMMM Tex.
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I would contend that, in the 21st Century, a DG rifle MUST have a scope on it.
Lion (if the Obamunists and the cost ever allow us to hunt them again) and leopard are often shot in low light conditions, requiring precise shot placement when it is difficult to line up iron sights. Buffalo often require shooting precisely through openings in the bush. In fact, Boddington has written that anyone using a double rifle with iron sights will forfeit 40% of his or her shot opportunities.
Hippo often have only part of their head above water. Crocodile? You must hit an object smaller than a tennis ball from dozens of yards away. As for elephant, you want to place a bullet precisely into a (mostly) non-moving target.
The only time I would NOT want a scope would be following up a wounded leopard, something I have never done. The solution is to scope the DG rifle but use QD mounts and make sure the iron sights are reasonably zeroed.
The only wounded DG I ever had to follow up was a wounded buffalo. It never occurred to me to remove the scope and the final shot was about 30 yards away, with insurance shots about 10 yards closer. The scope caused me no problems.
Make sure your rifle fits, though, so that when you look at something, close your eyes, bring up the rifle, and then open them, your cheek is on the cheekpiece and you are looking through the scope at the object.
Don't blame me. I voted for Trump.
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