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My deer hunting buddy bought a .270 Wssm and says they run to far after he shoots them. He thinks it is embarrassing.
I suggested a 35 Whelen but he ignored me.
Should he try a magic bullet? Or better shot placement.
whelennut

If he's venting the boiler, there's nothing that'll keep them from running.

No magic bullets - high shoulder placement and he shall have the flop he seeks each and every time.

Better shot placement. I haven't shot any deer with anything bigger than a 6.8x43 in a few years and none have gone far.

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I can tell you one thing. It's not because his velocity is too high.

Without knowing his shot placement, sounds like his bullets aren't opening up fast enuff. IF it's poor shot placement, a different bullet won't help.

Jerry

Tell him to quit shooting them in the azz...

THIS ^^^^

If he is using a partition esque bullet, something that expands wider might help, but likely won't make a huge difference once applied to the vitals.

While the high shoulder shot is effective if used correctly, it really messes up the front shoulder roasts which is a sin in my book.

Some situations call for a bang flop, but i've never minded following a short blood trail. It's just a part of it.

Bang flops are the result of destroying the nervous system.Bullets that are too hard will give you great penetration,but may make a smaller wound channel.Find the right bullet along with good bullet placement it will result in bang flops more often than not.Here are some pictures I took of a deer I killed with a 7mag.The deer was about 125yds,velocity of this load around 3100fps,bullet 150gr Nosler Ballistic Tip.

There 's the answer. Placement. Take out running gear and vitals.

Why would anyone be embarrassed over something as silly as that?

A 270 WSM should knock their noses in the dirt most times with the right placement and bullets.Ribs and lungs not so much...you will get runners regardless of bullets.

He could be shooting a 50 BMG, but if his shot placements off..... Hit 'em in the boiler room and they won't go far. Works for me. Get to the range and pay your dues.

As someone said, if you want a bang flop you have to disrupt the central nervous system....it takes precise shot placement.


Another pic: definite bang flop on an oryx.

And yes, it was with a .223AI..

There must be something wrong with your buddies .270 WSM. Every deer I shot with my .22 magnum went right in a heap.

But it takes an extra hand to hold the flashlight...

Lots of people still looking for the magic deer bullet.....

Shoot it in the damn shoulder and watch it fall.

Everyone better listen to blackheart. He's shot more deer than me and makes 1911's for a living. He JUST DOES IT BETTER!

Im guessing a head shot with the 22 magnums?

Your buddy can't shoot for schit. The Whelen isn't some magic round, nor is anything else.

For a "bang flop", it's CNS or nothing. That's the only guarantee.

"He thinks it's embarrassing".... what kind of a jackass is worried about that instead of a clean, humane kill?

I've shot deer through the lungs with a bunch of different bore diameters from 6mm to .458".

I cannot *conclusively* say there is a whole lot of difference, though my feeling is that speed contributes.

I shoot, they run. Some farther than others.

The bigger diameters cause more external bleeding.

Bullet selection is paramount, especially if one wants to break running gear. That's when the death-runs become much shorter.