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Yes indeed Paul! haha!

I agree that deer are not hard to kill. However they can be hard to find. Especially if you shoot them just before it gets dark and there is no blood trail. I had a deer that I hit just before dark get half eaten by the time I found it the next morning. If they make it into a swamp then the real fun begins.
I think my friends problem is that he gets to be teased by guys that are in a hurry to find the deer so they can go into town.

I'll sacrifice some shoulder meat for a short trail. Better than letting what the coyotes don't get stay warm for a long time because then I've sacrificed all of it. It isn't always that cold where I'm hunting.

Problem also might be that he shoots them too late in the evening. I never understood a lot of this low light business,where people shoot deer too late and too close to cover where they can disappear and not be found until morning. In coyote and wolf country you are going to likely lose them. You have to use some discretion. Just because you can take a shot doesn't always mean you should.

One thing for sure....your buddy is barking up the wrong tree if he thinks jumping around to another cartridge or bullet is going to solve his problem. He needs to learn some discretion in shot selection and conditions.

Just my 2 cents....

Yup

Bob,
You are correct.
Where we hunt the hunting pressure is pretty severe and the deer will bed down almost all day in the thick stuff, and move at dusk and dawn.
We sometimes nap in the midday because the deer are doing the same thing.
Unless the rut is on we rarely see a buck during daylight hours. We see them alongside the highway after dark.
It is very frustrating.

Usually deer are moving and in thick cover. I passed on a big eight pt. Last season but most guys shoot at anything they see and good bullet placement is very rare around here.
My kids are good shots and use 30 caliber and we never have a problem.
Sometimes the trees jump in the way to block the bullet like the Secret Service do in the movies.
whelennut

whelennut, One of our Kansas crew does the same thing!

Hey....I was tired. Watching the Kane boys shoot big deer is very taxing....

It was warm and sunny.......

I think that is good strategy to lull them into a false sense of security.

Yeah...that's it! Thats what I was doing.

Just keep kicking that can down the road and look dumb......

I have actually taken a nap and woke up to a deer or turkey.

High shoulder shot will break em down.

Funny story, a friend fell asleep sitting against a log. When he woke up a doe had her nose stuck about 6" from his face. Rumor was he screamed like a little girl and the doe took off both of them none the worse for wear

It's post like this that make me doubtful about coming here!!

grew up where every deer i ever saw shot had a hole in the head or neck. comes along the mid sixties and the gun writers all started acting like head/neck shooters were ranked with pedophiles. boiler room shots if kept high work good for bang flops but head neck shots are gar en teed.

my mounts are mostly European and a third eye adds a little for me.
i have only ever had to track 2 deer in 55 years and by that i mean look hard for sign, not follow a red highway a hundred yards.
shot a buck at 150 yards with a 308 loaded with combinded tec bullets. entrance was just behind the elbow. no exit. also no lungs, no heart, no diaphram,and just chunks of liver. most internal devastation i ever saw. that buck ran 125 yards with no blood trail. deer just do what they do.

look closely in the background, you'll understand all the advice you need on bang flops. About 220 yards. 308 Win and 168 smks.

Nice shot!

Hear, hear!

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