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Here's the link for .270 Winchester RL-26 load data. FYI,in the pictured .270 it uses one grain less powder than the max for almost the same speed.

http://www.alliantpowder.com/reload...;type=1&powderid=40&cartridge=63

Thanks Ken, and another nice Mauser! The Federal Premium 150 gr. NP runs about 2,800 - 2,850 FPS. Not a huge difference, but I always thought 3K FPS for 150s would be great since the 130s typically exceed that velocity, if only slightly.

If you are getting maximum velocity through a shorter barrel you are simply getting more pressure than you should be. Velocity is far from the primary goal in reloading...

Good point and duly noted.

I see StBlewie got commingled with Oldman1942...

Once again he is gone for a while...

Good times for all...

Yup,gone for a while. Like diarrhea it will be back.

I'll take 100 fps if i can get it safely. There are ways to get there too sometimes. Can be a combo of throat, type of rifling, bullet coatings and powder choices.

That said I don't look for it on hunting rounds... 100 fps won't make enough difference to worry about to normal distances.

Safe is a funny word...

To state it again, if you are going faster than the books say you can, you have excess pressure. I realize the books say 3k is there... with a 24" barrel... running up against the edge constantly with no available pressure signs or verifiers is not a good plan.

My father always ran stuff as hot as he could, believing in seeing "the signs" as good enough. Sticky bolts and cracked lugs were not uncommon... and for absolutely no gain.

The max velocity is 3022,I'm getting 3000 with a 22" barrel. Deduct 25 fps per inch. 3022-50= 2972 fps is what you get. Now 3000-2972=28 the difference is 28 fps.

How is that going to cause sticky bolts and cracked lugs?

3000-2850=150 fps seems to me that a 150 fps more with a 150 gr NP is a pretty good gain.

I disagree, having had pressure tests run on some of my loads There are lots of variables out there.


I"ll just leave it at that.

If you like to hot rod you can push a 35 Whelen very close to a .338 Win Mag.
I like a 225 gr bullet at 2,700.

I understand those variables a bit and also understand exactly how few here are likely to run those tests...

For some it is not particularly unsafe, but as general practice it is not something to be encouraging a not-even-newbie reloader on...

Art you are very true there. I generally give more credit to folks thinking abilities than I should...

For folks not willing to do the research etc... and running normal everything I say you are on the money.

Regardless for a hunting round 100 fps does nothing.

In target shooting where a fraction of an inch means winning or loosing, it matters some... my personal rule of thumb was I had to be able to gain 100 FPS or close to it, or gain at least .050 in BC for it to be worth messing with generally speaking. Realizing I"m talking 300-1000 yards and nothing shorter that ever mattered.... and 300 rarely did... most of the matter things started at 500 and out..

Jeff

Lacking the ability for actual pressure testing, I just slum along according to the chronometer.

If you'll bring that .270 up to Quemado, elkhntr, I'll be sure to test it extensively for you. Over the next couple of years ...

You've got a 460 Weatherby, so I don't understand why you need another rifle anyway.

I'm sure you would!

The .460 is my varmint rifle.



Not going to make it to Quemado this year. Work got in the way.

Does anyone know what the situation will be at Armijo Springs on Sunday? I can't get out there with my daughter until Saturday afternoon and I was wondering if we stay through Sunday, will there be much going on or will everything be winding down beginning Sunday morning?

No one has replied to my inquiry on the Armijo Spgs thread.

I'm trying to determine if it's worth the drive for just half of Saturday and just one night. I could potentially stay Sunday night, but it doesn't sound like anyone will be left by then.

Regarding .270 velocity for 150s, I don't have the reloading experience to make an informed comment. All I know is what I have read and my thinking was that if Winchester originally designed 130s with a velocity of 3,140 and later reduced the velocity to 3,060 fps, a target velocity of 3,000 fps for 150s would probably be ok (but I could definitely be mistaken). I can certainly see how 3,000 fps for 150s would increase pressures, though.

Sunday is when it all winds down. Most will be packing up leaving for home,others will stay till Monday and then leave. Sunday morning it's usually buy,sell,and trade day.

You can shoot some of the rifles,handguns and shotguns if you ask the owner.

Thanks Ken.