Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles Have rifles, chamberings, scopes, and bullets finally hit the wall?

Yup!

If that list of skullphucked schit impresses you, have at it.......

I think that technology is continuing on each and every piece of our arsenal. No question lots of the old stuff works and works well enough, but there is always room for improvement.
I have little doubt that we'll see marked improvements in propellants as the technology there unfolds.
And, the haters are going to contine to hate.

16bore,



You're not pleased with the introduction of temperature stable or copper reducing powders?

Then obviously you've hit the wall too. Stupid is never not funny.

That's been going on since Speer thrower vs. Bow.

And everyone knows the invention of the Crossbow was so unethical.

He's still pissed about that "new fangled" Long Bow.

I know. It will continue.

Remote control is next.

The rifle is a tool. The time in the woods is the important thing to me. Life gets hectic, yours especially so, according to some of your posts. The more hours spent in solitude chasing my quarry the better it is for my peace of mind. Nice to get away from all the obsessing over minute differences in ballistics, especially at the ranges we hunt in Virginia, and just hunt. If it comes to remote controlled I'll give up. Always enjoyed the hunt more than the killing. The killing has always been just a necessity whether in the woods or on the farm. I glean no pleasure from the act.

A little off topic but in a store yesterday to pickup the Grandson a kids fishing rod. I have more than enough .22lr, but asked about them and was told they currently have a buy one get another at 50% off. Asked if there was a limit and was told bring your truck around back and I can give you more than you probably want.

Seems to me there haven't been any really revolutionary advancements in over 100 years. The .30-06 and commercialized Mauser action designs still reign supreme.

Few months ago I ordered a keg of IMR 4451 just because it has been reported to be right up there with, if not better than, H4350/4831 in regards to temp insensitivity.


Not sure how long they've been around but I also appreciate nickel plated #5's. Until I bite down on one anyway.



We are pretty frikken spoiled when it comes to all this chit.

Lets see,Nosler Partitions,Swift A-Frame,Barnes X. Hodgdon Extreme and other temp insensitive powders. No more fogging of scopes,better lenses,better tracking. Synthetic stocks,better metal finishes i.e. more rust resistant.

And is just what I came up with in a few minutes. Most of those were done in the last 20 years.

Bitterroot Bonded Core,Trophy Bonded Bullets,Woodleigh bullets,North Fork bullets,

Those are incremental improvements that don't have much, if any impact how we hunt or make it easier to connect, they just make it easier for you to drag your old, wrinkly azz around in the woods. Light, handy rifles have been around forever. I was thinking about stuff that actually takes over some of the stuff we do like holding and squeezing. The rifles, ammo and sights we have already let us take shots and make clean kills, if we have the skill, at ranges beyond what can or should be characterized as "hunting".

No big game animal I've ever taken couldn't have been taken with a .30-06 or even a 7x57. Rifles, powders, bullets and scopes have improved over the last 100 years plus but the most important changes for me have been elsewhere.

I don't have a horse, I have a bunch of them. They all live under the hood of my 4x4 truck that takes me from the home turf to the hunting grounds in a matter of hours, trips that would take days by horse. Before I leave home I use my home computer, the internet and Google Earth to learn or review the terrain and fauna of the country I will be hunting. I also download the latest maps to my GPS and cell phone so I not only have electronic moving maps showing my current location but also land owner information. If I get hurt I can use my Delorme InReach emergency beacon to summon help via the Iridium satellite system. It also sends out a beaconing signal which allows my family to track me via a web page displaying a map of my travels and exact location. When I'm out of cell phone coverage my family rests easier knowing I made it back to camp.

It's good to be living in the 'good old days'.

I've seen a couple of 100 yard bow shots. Hopefully never again. However when some see these advertisements we will see more lost animals.

Pappy348,



Who set you up as the arbiter of what is not hunting?

If the industry starts releasing new cartridges set up to win like the 6.5 Creedmoor, we are in for some serious growth. If they can get twist rate, throating and mag box length right on new stuff, it could very well be a new era.

Won't happen though.

Why I did, of course.