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Thought it was kinda funny actually. The more schit changes, the more it stays the same.
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I think the main difference is platforms. I have both cartridges but set up differently for different purposes. My 308 is a 22" Montana, my 270 is a 24" Montana. It would seem that the 2" of barrel wouldn't be much of a thing - but the two rifle handle completely differently. The 308 has a VX 3 2.5-8; the 270 VX3i 3.5-10 CDS. The 308 is my Whitetail gun - used for treestands and still hunting. The 270 is my carry long range rig. Both will see action this fall but in different states. One cam certainly cover for the other but I prefer dedicated rifles for specific tasks.
Rifle looneyism at its finest..............
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I just carry a light 22" barreled 270 everywhere..except when I feel like carrying something else. This eliminates the comparison and any conflict.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
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It's a platform issue for me, somethings I like short actions in and I'd go 308, others I'll take the 270 with. A savage 99 or browning BLR in 308 are two that come to mind fast handling fit me well and have good reach for the occasional long shot, my main bolt rifle is a 270 CLR/NULA hybrid that handles bean fields, recoil is very light is death on whitetails and adequate for elk when it needs to be.
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Based solely on my experience, I'll have to give the edge to the .308 Winchester. I have never owned a .270.... A friend does have one and it kills the hell out of deer.
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270 is a flat shooter. Love mine. 308 is better choice for someone who shoots paper a lot. I prefer the 06 for hunting.
All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.
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Why bring back a 15 year old thread? Because he couldn't go back 30-50....
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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270 is a flat shooter. Love mine. 308 is better choice for someone who shoots paper a lot. I prefer the 06 for hunting. This^^^^^^
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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wizard,
I own both. Either will reliable kill every big game animal in North America, although I'd want something in the ballpark of a .45/70 were I hunting our largest bears.
Eskimos & Inuits use the '06 for everything including Polar Bear.
Go with the one with which you're most comfortable.
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I just carry a light 22" barreled 270 everywhere..except when I feel like carrying something else. This eliminates the comparison and any conflict. Quit it - practicality has nothing to do with it Next thing you know, you'll be recommending a 22" barrel 30-06 for everything with a boring 180 gr Partition.
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I just carry a light 22" barreled 270 everywhere..except when I feel like carrying something else. This eliminates the comparison and any conflict. Quit it - practicality has nothing to do with it Next thing you know, you'll be recommending a 22" barrel 30-06 for everything with a boring 180 gr Partition. Could be worse,he could have recommended a 22" barrel 7x57 and 160 gr Nosler Partitions for everything.
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I just carry a light 22" barreled 270 everywhere..except when I feel like carrying something else. This eliminates the comparison and any conflict. Quit it - practicality has nothing to do with it Next thing you know, you'll be recommending a 22" barrel 30-06 for everything with a boring 180 gr Partition. Could be worse,he could have recommended a 22" barrel 7x57 and 160 gr Nosler Partitions for everything. Pure sacrilege. Just like punching paper with hunting bullets. Partitions are way too yesterday too. Just sayin...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Yup,Noslers are so.....yesterday.
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My two favorite whitetail hunting cartridges, and I don't think there is any practical difference between the two for hunting light, big game. Like the S&W M27-2 and the Colt Python - both so good you really need one of each to end fretting about the "which is best" question.
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If shooting factory ammo, I think that the 270 will generally have flatter-shooting loads readily available.
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You mean.... vs.
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About the same time of the OP I went to a gun store to ask this very question to the expert behind the counter.
He grabbed a 308, said it was the most "inherently" accurate round ever made. For affect he slapped the bolt and sniffed with authority.
I asked, well if a 270 was flatter shooting wouldn't that make things easier?
He responded no, a 308 arcs- but it arcs to the target.
So there ya go.
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What is the .270's claim to fame? In my opinion, the advocacy of Jack O'Connor. It has pluses and minuses as it relates to the cartridges that bracket it from both above and below, just like all others. Had O'Connor, with his prolific writing of the day, used and wrote about one of those other "bracketing" cartridges so extensively, it probably would have had the same success in the pantheon of American cartridges.
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Sleek hunting bullets maximizing speed vs. BC for shots inside 400yds:
270 Win - 130gr E-tip with .459 BC at 3,100fps 308 Win - 150gr E-tip with .469 BC at 2,950fps
There's really not that much difference there downrange.
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How much does B.C. matter inside of 500 yards?
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