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1 - Hitlers invasion of the Soviet Union. I mean, let's just tie into a military that's 3x as large as yours, while you're still involved in a war on another front...Genius idea.
2 - Japan's attack of Pearl Harbor and the Philippines. Hey, we're an island nation with the 3rd largest navy in the world. So let's just start a fight with the #1 & #2 navies in the world at the same time...BRILLIANT!!!
3 - Hitler's declaration of war on the US. Hey, we've already got a serious tiger by the tail in the Soviet Union, so let's just declare war on he worlds largest economy with the 2nd largest Navy...But we're the master race, we got this!!
4 - Operation Market Garden - Let's send tanks up a single road in a nation that's mostly under water, and make our objective 3 bridges away...I mean, what could go wrong? Right?
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The Versailles treaty created the war.
The primary war was against the Russians. Big prize was the Ukraine. 19/20 German soldiers died on the eastern front. Russia was prime to be attracted due to a purge by Stalin.
Really nothing smart about untold million of people dying for reperation greed.
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On a more personal level, I'm sure my dad would say the Battle of Kasserine Pass. He was the only man from his platoon to walk out of there on his own two feet. Rommel was a bad azz.
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On a more personal level, I'm sure my dad would say the Battle of Kasserine Pass. He was the only man from his platoon to walk out of there on his own two feet. Rommel was a bad azz. Yeah that was ugly...rude welcome to the war for sure. So glad your dad made it.
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GunGeek,
"so let's just declare war on he worlds largest economy with the 2nd largest Navy.."
I thought that we had the largest Navy at the time. If we were # 2, who had the largest ?
Myron
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Not fire bombing Japan sooner.
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Intel is everything. With it you win. Without it you can lose without knowing why.
When a country is well governed, poverty and a mean condition are something to be ashamed of. When a country is ill governed, riches and honors are something to be ashamed of
. Confucius
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pearl harbor,by far.
piss off the eagle,git ya az kicked.
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"L'audace, l'audace, toujours l'audace."
(Unless your boss is a meth head)
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Early in the N Africa campaign Germany was intercepting US intel. Rommel was a bad ass so I'm not taking anything away from him but he had good information.
After the allies cracked enigma we shut down our leaks and the tables turned.
How about MacArthur's 9 + hour paralysis after Pearl was attacked and losing almost his entire air force on the ground.
The British surrender at Singapore.
The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution.
David Horowitz, Saul Alinsky and every woman I've ever argued with.
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Exercise Tiger
On Operation Barbarossa, there is evidence that it was meant to preempt a Soviet invasion of German territory of which the Germans had intel.
Not a real member - just an ordinary guy who appreciates being able to hang around and say something once in awhile.
Happily Trapped In the Past (Thanks, Joe)
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Anything and everything that the Axis powers did to bring the US into the war. Jonathan Parshall's "Combined Fleet" page makes a good case that, based on economics alone, the Japanese had no chance of defeating the US. Why Japan Really Lost The War - Grim Economic RealitiesTheir only chance was to break our will, and they overestimated their ability to do that by a jug full. What a waste. What a bloody awful waste.
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"L'audace, l'audace, toujours l'audace."
(Unless your boss is a meth head)
Dave Tien, mon ami! Une autre temps, une autre guerre. (sigh).
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Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."
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Glider assault during Operation Husky was pretty bad. However here's a plan for future unwanted politicians. http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2013/08...med-lives-of-st-louis-mayor-nine-others/
Founder
Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."
WS
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On a more personal level, I'm sure my dad would say the Battle of Kasserine Pass. He was the only man from his platoon to walk out of there on his own two feet. Rommel was a bad azz. My dad witnessed American .50 BMGs mistakenly open up on US paratroopers. I think it was at Anzio.
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The British surrendering Singapore to the Japs. The Marines attacking Peleliu Island. Not needed and wasted thousands of Marine lives. Putting British General Montgomery in charge of the Battle of The Bulge. Should have been Patton, arguably the war may have ended sooner had Patton been put in command. 1 - Hitlers invasion of the Soviet Union. I mean, let's just tie into a military that's 3x as large as yours, while you're still involved in a war on another front...Genius idea.
Actually a great idea but Hitler waited to late in the year, winter came early. 2 - Japan's attack of Pearl Harbor and the Philippines. Hey, we're an island nation with the 3rd largest navy in the world. So let's just start a fight with the #1 & #2 navies in the world at the same time...BRILLIANT!!! Not a bad idea if the Japs had made plans to land troops and take HI. Also sticking around and making sure our carriers were taken out. 3 - Hitler's declaration of war on the US. Hey, we've already got a serious tiger by the tail in the Soviet Union, so let's just declare war on he worlds largest economy with the 2nd largest Navy...But we're the master race, we got this!!
Germany/Hitler had a oral agreement with Japan to do so. It forced his hand. 4 - Operation Market Garden - Let's send tanks up a single road in a nation that's mostly under water, and make our objective 3 bridges away...I mean, what could go wrong? Right?
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Japanese not bombing fuel depot at Pearl.
Founder
Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."
WS
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Not dropping the bomb on Tokyo.
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Not dropping the bomb on Tokyo. Was there much left after Lemay firebombed it?
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Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."
WS
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I have a question??? Good a place as any. Didn't read the book. But saw the movie "Unbroken". When he was taken to the restaurant in Tokyo, there were several tables of US military personnel in their class A's dining. I never realized there were that many American collaborators in Japan. They were collaborator, correct???
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Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."
WS
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