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I had a Kahr PM9 and recently sold it to buy a Glock 43. The trigger pull on the Kahr is long, smooth and looong. It takes a fair amount of concentration to keep the sights (or the laser--mine had a CT laserguard on it--aligned through the trigger stroke. The Glock's short pull I find easier to shoot consistently and quickly. Also, the slide on the Kahr is very stiff. I had 300 rounds through mine (excellent reliability throughout, not a single jam with WWB 115gr ammo) so it is not a matter of "breaking in;" the PM9 simply uses a stiff spring system which makes the slide hard to retract compared to the Glock 43.
Also, consider after market support for holsters and magazines. Glock magazines are about 10 bucks cheaper, and there are far more holsters available.
You won't go wrong with either gun but, having had the Kahr, I chose the Glock.
If you're really undecided, I would recommend you buy the Kahr and see if you like it. The Glock 43 is a Glock--Glock feel, Glock trigger--so it is likely a known quantity if you have experience with Glock 9mm's. The Kahr is a different animal--no trigger is really quite like it. Some compare it to a DA revolver, but I found it different from my S&W's and Colt's in that the Kahr trigger stacked and compressed toward the end of the stroke. I found my experience with the Kahr to be interesting, and I'm glad I owned the gun. Mainly because now I have no interest in owning another Kahr.
Thanks buddy for the thoughts. Have you tried to fit the 43 in your pocket? Thoughts?
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Save some money and don't buy the PM9. Get the CM9 _AND_ the G43.
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Both are too big for pocket carry, in my pockets at least.
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Thank you. I'm coming to terms that we just can't have true pocket carry in a 9mm.
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I am not putting down the Glock 43, by any means. I am liking my new G19 and Kirkpatrick OWB holster (like a 55BN or Askins Avenger).
But, I still like my 2 Kahrs because of the ease of pocket carry when the G19 isn't going to be appropriate.
The long trigger pull on the Kahrs does take some getting used to.
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The long trigger pull on the Kahrs does take some getting used to.
And that's the thing. I've lived with a Kahr, likely longer than anyone else on this forum. After getting used to the trigger (which shouldn't take anyone who does okay with a DA revolver or a Glock very long), I find the Kahr to be one of the easiest pistols to shoot well. I could say the same thing about the Glock. You can get used to either. Those triggers aren't the deal-killer for either pistol that they're purported by some to be. I have found though that while I can switch from Kahr to revolver to 1911 or HP and back again with no familiarization problems - putting a Glock in the mix takes a little time to adjust. For me, it's either all Glock or none. YMMV.
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had both sold the PM9, per your post "get used to one" and stick with it. The PM9 was very accurate.
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Thank you. I'm coming to terms that we just can't have true pocket carry in a 9mm. Lay a Shield on top of a G43 next time you're at the store. Travis
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Thank you. I'm coming to terms that we just can't have true pocket carry in a 9mm. Agreed. The max size for comfortable pocket carry would be something like the Ruger LCP. Even that's a bit much for me in a front pants pocket, and really never gets carried (although I have one). In reality, when I've been moved to carry in a front pants pocket, it's been my little NAA Mini Revolver. That's actually doable. Anything larger, and it gets carried IWB. And if I'm going to carry IWB, I generally choose something the size of a Glock 19 or 17 (or a K-Frame revolver). Little point in carrying anything much smaller IWB, unless you feel the need to drop down to something like a Glock 43, Shield, or LC9 (single-stack subcompacts), or a Detective Special/Chief's Special, in those situations where complete discretion is desired, i.e., near zero printing risk. Short of that rare situation, though, I'm carrying double stack or K-Frame.
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Looking at all the options for a small single stack 9. Both get great reviews. I rented a 43 and was pretty impressed. Can't find a Kahr to try out but have watched a ton of YouTube and looked at them in the stores. The Kahr is more money but is also smaller for pocket carry with same capacity. whichever feels the best to you
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Or have RWE do it for you.
Either way...
Dave
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I had all those pics bookmarked... Been wrestling with retiring "The Heater" in lieu of a 9mm trying to figure out if I can keep pocket lint out of a L&C'd hammer: ![[Linked Image]](http://loungecdn.luckygunner.com/lounge/media/g43-p938-size-comparison.jpg)
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Shield and IWB makes me happy.
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trying to figure out if I can keep pocket lint out of a L&C'd hammer:
Every night, when it comes out of the holster, you pop it a few times (wherever dust and lint tend to accumulate) with one of these kept on your night stand.
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Had the Kahr PM 9 and traded it off because I could not "hit" with it.
Then Bought the Glock 43 and am in hog heaven!
I can hit way better with it.
To me, it's a hand size thing. The kahr just was NOT comfortable for me to shoot.
Been packing my 43 in a pocket holster in jeans with NO problem.
Just MY experiences...
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Every night, when it comes out of the holster, you pop it a few times
I do the same thing but in the morning. Dave
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Deerhunter5555: You have answered your own question - go with the Glock 43!
I love mine.
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