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#113718 12/04/02
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I'm in the marget to buy a bow for hunting.
<br>Who makes the best bows? I've red about PSE and Mathews. Any models that someone might recommend.
<br>Money is not a problem since my wife said it would be my christmas gift. So think the best.

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Hglass,
<br>I have shot hoyt, pse, high country, and mathews extensively, and others not so extensively. I personally love the Mathews Q2XL, but that is me. What you have to do is figure out what you are looking for. Do you want extreme light weight, tree stand bow or stalking bow, how short axle to axle? Post more what you are looking for and I would be glad to give you my oppinion. Thanks.
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<br>I will be shooting from a tree stand most of the time. But when the occasion arises I will shoot from the ground. I'm looking for a fast and quit bow. I've read alot about Mathews and I'm interested in purchasing one. Also should I use an overdraw??

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Hglass,
<br>The Mathews really are great bows. I really love mine. I shot the MQ-32 for a while, but me being 6'6" that little bow was too short for my likings. Just for an example a bow with a longer axle-to-axle length will generally be easier to shoot all things being equal, becuase it is easier to hold steady. I would say take a look at the Mathews SQ2, Q2, Q2xl, and Legacy. The Legacy is the newest model and everyone we sell people come back to the shop just in absolute shock at how quiet and shock free they really are. What you need to do is find a shop that will let you shoot a Mathews or Hoyt? I really think those two are the best two bows out there. As for an overdraw, there is no real advantage to an overdraw anymore. With the newer bows being so efficient, the overdraw just makes it harder to shoot. All the overdraw does is shorten the arrow to help pick up speed, however, it also puts the arrow behind your hand which screws up accuracy. Add the new carbon arrows on top of that and you can pick up speed without the overdraw. Today's new bows really shoot plenty fast enough!! What I tell people who come into the shop is if the animal you hunt can't hear that arrow coming it doesn't really have to be going faster than the speed of light, but if your bow is loud then it better be going faster than the speed of light. So I will take a quiet, moderately fast, easy to shoot bow over a loud, extremely fast, hard to shoot bow. Follow what I am saying?? Let me know how it goes.
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What do you think of the Mathews MQ32 or the Legacy. Is one a better shooting bow than the other. Is one quiter than the other.
<br>What are the "straightline max cam"??

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I would definitely say that the Legacy would be a little easier to shoot do to the extra axle-to-axle length (32" vs. 34") As far as the straight line max cam goes, it has less nock travel from side to side and is more efficient. The down side to this particular cam is it isn't adjustable for draw length. Meaning you get measured for your draw length and that is what you would buy. With some other cams you might have 1 to 5" of draw length adjustment depending on the cam which is good if you were to resale it. I myself don't worry about re-sale because somebody out there is going to have the same draw length as you more than likely. If you like the MQ-32 look at the SQ2, it is basically a better MQ-32. It has the improved cam, dampeners in the riser, a better grip, and the new camoflauge, if that matters. If you want to try the short bows, then that is definitely the cadillac of them all. Do you have a Mathews dealer where you live? Thanks.
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What does the long risers do better than the short ones? (25" vers. 18")
<br>I don't know if there is a dealer near me, I live in Long Island, N.Y. I might have to order the bow via internet.
<br>My length of pull is 28" I'm looking for a 50 to 60 lb bow. Whos arrow rest would you recommend? Also what mfg., arrows and what size. I want to shoot aluminum arrows. What thoughts do you have??
<br>Thanks for all your help.
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<br>PS the SQ2 looks mighty good

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hglass,
<br>The longer riser just makes the bow easier to hold steady do to the length. As with the Mathews, the long riser, short limb combination helps dampen vibrations. When you shoot a bow the arrow goes forward as do the limbs. With the long riser short limb combination your limbs are starting to go up and down with the shot instead of back and forth. So essentially they are cancelling each other out, hence less vibration. Less vibration equals noise. Now for the bad news, Mathews doesn't sell over the internet or mail orders. So you need to find you a dealer near you. Let me know what you find out. As far as rest, sights, arrows, etc. I usually go with with the simplest thing possible. Arrows are an easy choice if you are going with aluminum: Easton XX-78. They are the straightest, strongest and easiest to shoot. You definitely want fiber optics on your sight. A stabilizer is not just a "stabilzer" anymore. They actually dampen vibration and noise also. Their are hundreds of choices out there so tell me what you are thinking of and I will give you my oppinion of the product. Remember that this is my oppinion and I am sure somebody somewhere is having success with something I don't like. So take it as it is. Thanks and good luck!!
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<br>Let me go over a few things with you
<br>With Mathews the best short bow is the SQ2 (31" axe to axe). The best med bow Legacy (34" axe to axe)
<br>If I choose between these two bows I can't go wrong.
<br>Eastern arrows xx78. A good quality stabilizer. And stick with easy operation (good quality) arrow rests and the rest of the equipment.

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Hglass,
<br>That is the way I would go. Let me know about the Mathews and if you have any questions regarding any accessories. I have a few things (sight, arrows?? depending on your size) around the house, if you didn't want to pay the new price, just let me know. I would be glad to assist you in anyway possible. Good Luck!!
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Heres a different opinion, never one to say Mathews is not a good bow but.....for a little less money I have found one that is equal (as far a I am concerned) Fred Bear Epic Extreme Solo cam 32 inch X to X, Very smooth and forgiving for a short bow. Eating venison from its effort this this fall today as a matter of fact. 115lb. Doe . Would have had a 6 pointer if I had been smart enough to whistle so it would stop for the shot. NM in Vt.


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MQ32 -- perfection with a string.
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don't forget about Darton they are an awesome bow. They are as smooth as butter (warm butter that is) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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If you do get a Matthews(I wouldnt take one if someone tried to give it to me) stay away from the short axle to axle bows. They are hard to shoot accurately unless you have perfect shooting form. Matthews bows are hard to shoot anyway. They are assembled with gaps(albeit small ones) between the components that are on the axles and the insides of the limb tips. This is where their speed comes from. It also contributes to cam lean at full draw and makes it too easy to torque the bow. Both very destructive to accuracy. I know a gentleman who is a pro shooter for matthews and every new tourney or hunting bow they give him is first torn down and spacers put on the axles to tighten everything up. I speak from personal experience as well. Shot one for 3 years. Well I shot it when it wasnt in the shop. The limbs were replaced 3 times, the idler wheel once and the cam once. The shop I work in from the summer till opening day of archery season sells matthews as well as other brands. Of all the different bows we handle we send more matthews back for warranty repairs than any other bow. I shoot a Jennings Buckmaster G2 xl (35" axle to axle) and love it. As fast and quiet as the matthews but 200 bucks less money. so go figure. When you get a matthews you are paying for a name and not a lot of quality. All they advertise sounds real good but you cant hunt if you are constantly having to have your bow worked on now can you?


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Sniper,
I work in a bow shop part time that sells Mathews, PSE, and Parker, and I have never seen one Mathews with so called gaps when new. After they have been shot for a while, then yes you might have to replace the bushings, but never on a new one. Now, that is my experience, so take it as you will. As far as shooting the short axle-to-axle bows goes, I am 6'6" and I shot the MQ-32 for a season and had nothing but great luck with it. The only reason I changed was because I am a 31" draw, and I was sick of shooting a d-loop on a 30" draw length bow. I will never shoot a d-loop again. I have shot quite of few bows, and right now there is no question that Mathews and Hoyt are ahead of the pack. My question to you is why is everyone else trying to duplicate what Mathews does?? Nothing rude, just a serious question.
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Why has Bow Tech not been mentioned, or is that a loaded question?

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not duplicating, just refining.


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Hglass.......

I think that I would look hard at the Matthews Bows.....I shoot a Martin, and have for years...So, I'm stickin' with it....If/When I ever do decide to get a new one, I'll give Matthews some serious consideration....I have buddies that have them, and they love them....Good thing, money isn't a option.....Cause them Matthews are some kind of expensive!!!!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

But, usually you get what you paid for....So, with the Matthews....you are probably gonna get a good one!!!!!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Hello Ya'll this is my first post here. Not that I know a whole lot about bowhunting or anything about it for that matter I have never even bowhunted for that matter, I just got my first bow last fall. I bought it from my uncle it is a proline bow(cheaper bow) all set up I got it for $100. I bought some arrows and practiced a whole lot and will probably use it to hunt next deer season. Recently I picked up a book mentioned on other forums that I frequent called the traditional bowyer's bible, it is one heck of an information packed book. I have started on building a traditional bow and I am sure I will be pleased with the results. If you have the time or inclination pick up a copy of this book good stuff...my .02 cents.



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DTM........

I'm pretty much a Newby also....But, this place seems to be pretty good....A lot of nice people with good info....Glad to see you jumped right in after I did....

I see you are from Georgia.....What part?????

I look forward to some good reads from you....

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