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I'm in the market for a 30-06. Can't decide which rifle yet. Trying to decide between a T3 Lite, Encore Pro Hunter, or Ruger.

For those with Tikka experience, is the T3 Lite too lite and recoil too heavy? I have some issues with some discs in my neck and don't want to get beat up too much, but I don't want to carry around a log either.


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The remington custom shop ks on the classifieds for under a grand would be what I'd buy.


Light enough to carry, heavy enough to not beat the hell out of you and a damn good price.



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Don't know what to say except that my .30-06 weighs 6lbs 2ozs and causes me no problems at all. I've had one fusion and one disc replacement in my neck. Still have two marginal ones. What's your Doc say?

If your good to go I'd get the Tikka which when set up to hunt should go a bit over 7lbs?

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If recoil is a potential problem, I would go with the Ruger. I have had several over the years and they have all been trouble-free and acceptably accurate, right out of the box. The Hawkeye is light enough to carry comfortably but has enough heft to handle the recoil of even hot loads from a .30-06. JMHO.


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Ruger 77, Remington 700 or go find a good 98 Mauser, or model 70. Then you'll have a classic to hunt with, instead of just another rifle. Not that tikkas as don't shoot well!!!

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If you want stainless/synthetic, light weight, then go with the Tikka. If you prefer wood/blue and don't mind a little extra weight, go with a Ruger.

I have a 25-06 Tikka and the recoil is mild to me. I wouldn't think a 30-06 would be too bad. If it is, a Limbsaver should fix the issue.

I own Rugers and Tikkas, though neither in 30-06. Both are great rifles, and I appreciate them for different reasons. The Tikkas do tend to be more accurate right out of the box with no tinkering.


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There's a pre-64 in the classified for about $850 I think. If I was in the market for an /06, I'd be all over it.

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I'd go Ruger. They weigh enough to tame the recoil but they aren't 10 pounders when scoped. I wouldn't lug a pre '64 unless it was a Featherweight.

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Originally Posted by tarheelpwr
There's a pre-64 in the classified for about $850 I think. If I was in the market for an /06, I'd be all over it.


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The remington custom shop ks on the classifieds for under a grand would be what I'd buy.


Light enough to carry, heavy enough to not beat the hell out of you and a damn good price.


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I've mostly had Rugers. I especially like the Mark II Boat Paddle models. I've got a few right now and a Winchester mod 70 Classic stainless. Ruger has just always been my go to gun.


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Pre 64 is what I would choose or an old sako l61r

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Originally Posted by rainierrifleco
Pre 64 is what I would choose or an old sako l61r


Yep, as long as it's a fwt. Not that the std's are a bad thing either. Here's how my list would look:

1. Pre 64 model 70 fwt
2. Professionally sporterized m1917
3. Older Sako
4. Husqvarna 1600 lightweight
5. Interarms MK X
6. Ruger m77 MKII or Hawkeye
7. Kimber montana


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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Ruger....cuz I don't like T/Cs or Tikkas....

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I have the tikka and don't think it kicks too bad, but I don't have disc issues either. If you have issues, why not look toward a 7-08 or even a .243. No sense in injuring your neck for not much gain in the field...

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Tikka all day.

Limbsaver tames the recoil mightily.

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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Tikka all day.

Limbsaver tames the recoil mightily.

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Nice, I have a pre 64 model 70 fwt that shoots better than that:

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Can I tape up 2 holes like you did and call it a 3 shot group?


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Originally Posted by K1500
I have the tikka and don't think it kicks too bad, but I don't have disc issues either. If you have issues, why not look toward a 7-08 or even a .243. No sense in injuring your neck for not much gain in the field...


I actually have a T/C Encore PH in 7mm-08 and a Rem 700 in 6mm Rem. Killed lots of whitetails with the 6mm. Haven't shot the 7mm-08 yet. LGS is looking for a Tikka T3X in 7mm-08 for me now. Also have 35 Whelen, so 30-06 brass is useable in both.


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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
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Tikka all day.

Limbsaver tames the recoil mightily.

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Nice, I have a pre 64 model 70 fwt that shoots better than that:

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Can I tape up 2 holes like you did and call it a 3 shot group?


My first rifle was a model 70. Still have it.

How much does one cost these days? I'll bet you could buy a Tikka and a decent scope for the same price.

As far as the tape, I'm frugal. I tape holes and use the targets again. They don't make those targets anymore. Different range day.

My math is a little shaky but I think my groups are smaller.




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t3 lite in 06 doesn't recoil as bad as you think.
I have limb saver on mine and it's no problem. I'm debating on my 14 year old to use it this year on her cow hunt.
If you want a TC then the venture with houge stock is very under rated and its heavier stock might absorb the kick little more.

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Which Ruger, the Hawkeye or American? Based on the price ranges of your other options it looks like you are considering the American.

I have nothing against any of the "value" rifles you have listed. I own a few myself. I like the Ruger American as a no frills rifle on a budget. Both the Ruger American and Tikka are borderline too light for 30-06 IMO. But there are high tech recoil pads available for the Tikka that will reduce recoil down to 243 levels. Recoil won't be a problem if you install one of the good recoil pads.

My Americans are both short actions, 308 and 223. They come with a pretty decent pad, but I've not shot one in 30-06 so I can't say for sure.

But if you want a nicer rifle the Ruger Hawkeye is a close 2nd place finisher to Winchester 70's in my book.


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Originally Posted by waterrat
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There's a pre-64 in the classified for about $850 I think. If I was in the market for an /06, I'd be all over it.


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To the OP,

Get the one that fits you best. If they are the same I like the Tikka or a used older Remington. Rugers are good, just don't fit me. I have no experience with the T/C.

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Check out a TC Venture, reasonably priced and a 5 shot 1" group guarantee. They usually run a $75 rebate right about now. I have a 6.5x284 and it's a 3/4" shooter. A bud has them in 308, 6.5x284 and 338, all sub 1" shooters. I've also had good luck with Rugers and Remington 700's.

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Ruger Hawkeyes are rock-solid reliable, but may take a bit of bedding or barrel channel work to show their best accuracy. Great buys can be found on them online.

If used is acceptable, Mark X, FN, Husqvarna and other Mausers are top choices, as are pre64 and M70 Classic models, and as always, older Sakos.

Among current push-feeds, Howas and their cousins the Weatherby Vanguards are excellent, if a bit heavy.

As far as recoil is concerned, nothing says you have to shoot full-power loads all the time. Light handloads or low-recoil factory stuff can limit the abuse your discs take during practice and a good deal of hunting as well.


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the action on the ruger American feels like chit to me. Either like it has metal bures in it or sand. It is very rough. I think I've tried to hold about 4 or 5 and something about each one.


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Tikka.

But my first choice would be one you didn't mention. An older Remington 700 BDL 1970's or older.

I don't like Ruger's stock design: It doesn't fit me. Others do like Ruger's stocks.


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Since everyone is mentioning the Campfire classifieds, I have an 06 for sale. It is a M670 Winchester and isn't as light as a Tikka, but it isn't heavy either. I do have the barreled action sitting in factory Winlite stock made by McMillan.

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I have a Browning X-bolt that I like more and more each day. The looks are a bit racey but it fits like a glove. Set up to hunt I'm at 8 pounds, the recoil is not a problem. 1" 5 shot groups are the norm.


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I have the Browning LH A-Bolt SS with the Boss. The Boss in my opinion looks like chit but it definitely works. This rifle groups every thing i have tried in it under an inch.

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Can't believe I am suggesting a 308 with TSX 150 grainers in a TIKKA. The TIKKA part is great. wink

I found a good load for my wife's '06. 150 TSX with 47 gr of H4895. Lethal as a heart attack. She billed a nice buck at 200 yards, and a nice bull moose at 60 yards with her older TIKKA in 30-06. She weighs 130 ish and says the recoil is quite manageable.


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I bought a M-77 about 15 years ago just as they were discontinuing the stainless laminated model. I love it. It is very accurate. The only issue with it is my velocities seem to be a little low.

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Originally Posted by the_shootist
Can't believe I am suggesting a 308 with TSX 150 grainers in a TIKKA. The TIKKA part is great. wink

I found a good load for my wife's '06. 150 TSX with 47 gr of H4895. Lethal as a heart attack. She billed a nice buck at 200 yards, and a nice bull moose at 60 yards with her older TIKKA in 30-06. She weighs 130 ish and says the recoil is quite manageable.


Funny you should post this, I just bought the last T3 Superlite .308 that Sportsman's had at their location. They're moving pretty fast.



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My apologies to the OP, but I have to ask: if recoil is an issue, why not go less than a 30-06 when several smaller cartridges can perform similarly? 308 has been mentioned, but there's also the 7-08, 280, 270, and the 6.5's that are really interesting and developing quite the reputation for game getters. If weren't stuck in Alaska and having to hunt big moose and maybe a bear (poor me), I'd be all over a 6.5 something.

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Go to a gunshow and find a sporterized Springfield. I guess they will always be my favorite 06.

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Originally Posted by akmtnrunner
My apologies to the OP, but I have to ask: if recoil is an issue, why not go less than a 30-06 when several smaller cartridges can perform similarly? 308 has been mentioned, but there's also the 7-08, 280, 270, and the 6.5's that are really interesting and developing quite the reputation for game getters. If weren't stuck in Alaska and having to hunt big moose and maybe a bear (poor me), I'd be all over a 6.5 something.


As I posted previously, I have a T/C Encore PH in 7mm-08. I'm looking to get a bolt action 7mm-08. But variety is the spice of life and I'm a gun nut, so I like having multiple calibers. I may not get an 06, but I'm thinking on it.


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My apologies to the OP, but I have to ask: if recoil is an issue, why not go less than a 30-06 when several smaller cartridges can perform similarly? 308 has been mentioned, but there's also the 7-08, 280, 270, and the 6.5's that are really interesting and developing quite the reputation for game getters. If weren't stuck in Alaska and having to hunt big moose and maybe a bear (poor me), I'd be all over a 6.5 something.


As I posted previously, I have a T/C Encore PH in 7mm-08. I'm looking to get a bolt action 7mm-08. But variety is the spice of life and I'm a gun nut, so I like having multiple calibers. I may not get an 06, but I'm thinking on it.

Nice thing about 30 cal is the variety of bullets. If you want less recoil you can always load it down or go to 150's or 130's or even lighter. Besides, if you don't have at least one -06 you must be a commie or gay. grin


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I sure do like my T3 SL in .30-06.With a max load of I-4350 and the 165Gr.NPT,it is stupid accurate n not bad to shoot.150 might tame it a bit.Find one to shoot n see iffin ya can handle the recoil.JMHO...ScottyO.

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Buy an old Sako L61. Get one with a Bofors marked barrel or a nice pre 64.

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How about a Tikka LSA 65 30-06 with a nice piece of walnut? Bofors barrel.

Shoots 155 grain Lapua Scenars into tiny little groups, typical of Tikkas.

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The T/C pro hunter will have more recoil than the Tikka.

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I have 2 Rugers. A MarkII in 243 and a Hawkeye in 338 Federal. I really like both of them. Accurate and rugged.
My 30-06 is a Browning X-Bolt. As was said earlier, racy looks but great ergos and very easy to find an accurate load for in everything I have tried. Nice recoil pad too.


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In the bolt action universe, I'm fond of the Husqvarnas built on the 1900 push feed action and despite the general indifference toward them, I like my CLRs and the 30-06 is a fine shooting rifle with good balance.

For a woods hunting rifle where a fast(er) follow up shot might be nice to have, it is hard to beat a Remington 6/760/7600.

My elk arsenal consists of a CLR and a Remington 760, but in 270, not 30-06.

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The Sako 61 action I had was just a push feed with a safety that did not control the firing pin!

That is a poor design lacking features that a rifleman demands.

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From what recall back then when they first came out the M50 had no checkering on it's stock and the M51 did. They were chambered for the 30-06 and 270 and made by High Standard in New Haven, Ct.

My late dad had a tool and die shop in the 1940's and made tooling for High Standard. I recall waiting in his car when he got M51's in 06 for himself and his brother. I still have his M51. He was proud that it had an 'FN' action.

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I have a left handed Zastava Model 70 in 30-06, and love it. Shoots an inch with Lake city 69 milsurp ammo and slightly better with Federal Fusion off the shelf at 100. Decent wood, great metal work and bluing, controlled feed Mauser and dead on reliable. Trigger adjusted to a crisp, no creep three pounds. Classic wood and blued steel, works like a champ, and yes, I do recommend one.

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Here is the first one I came across. The bolt handle does not sweep back like ours. This one may be some other action.

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Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
How about a Tikka LSA 65 30-06 with a nice piece of walnut? Bofors barrel.

Shoots 155 grain Lapua Scenars into tiny little groups, typical of Tikkas.

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I've been looking at those on GB and if I buy an '06 this is a slam dunk winner IMO.


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Obi_Wan,

I'd probably stop right here. It's tempting me.

The Tikka hunters are sharp dudes. It's difficult to beat Tikka.

BTW, you've got the right cartridge dialed in. While I don't own an '06, I do know that it's done everything that can be expected of a rifle cartridge.

Eventually, it'll boil down to your preference.

One thing I will mention is that while I like light rifles, I don't like shooting them. Even a Featherweight in .308 Win can produce uncomfortable recoil when bench shooting.


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Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
How about a Tikka LSA 65 30-06 with a nice piece of walnut? Bofors barrel.

Shoots 155 grain Lapua Scenars into tiny little groups, typical of Tikkas.

I know a guy....


I've been looking at those on GB and if I buy an '06 this is a slam dunk winner IMO.

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Originally Posted by Savage_99
Here is the first one I came across. The bolt handle does not sweep back like ours. This one may be some other action.

Sears M50

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They had a FN commercial Mauser action and a High Standard chrome lined barrel. They also have an excellent reputation for accuracy. It's funny how some things float your boat and some don't. The Model 50 floats mine. I don't own one and have a 30-06 I like. I hope to get one in the next year or so. Oh, and I like iron sights even though I've never used them on a scoped rifle other than the original sight-in.

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by JGRaider
Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
How about a Tikka LSA 65 30-06 with a nice piece of walnut? Bofors barrel.

Shoots 155 grain Lapua Scenars into tiny little groups, typical of Tikkas.

I know a guy....


I've been looking at those on GB and if I buy an '06 this is a slam dunk winner IMO.

JG,

What's that faithful ole 7RM gonna think when you show up with a new '06... blush

Where's yo sensitivity... shocked

How you gonna 'splain that one...??

DF


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Originally Posted by JGRaider
Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
How about a Tikka LSA 65 30-06 with a nice piece of walnut? Bofors barrel.

Shoots 155 grain Lapua Scenars into tiny little groups, typical of Tikkas.

I know a guy....


I've been looking at those on GB and if I buy an '06 this is a slam dunk winner IMO.


I think the very vast majority of today's hunters have never heard of them.

The stock design is one of the best I have seen on a factory stock.



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Does "this guy" have a deluxe model or the regular one?


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Never heard of the Tikka LSA until reading this thread.


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I remember them as the "Ithaca" LSA. Thought they were a Sako.




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Originally Posted by rainierrifleco
Pre 64 is what I would choose or an old sako l61r


Exactly! I have both and love em!


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Originally Posted by BobinNH
I remember them as the "Ithaca" LSA. Thought they were a Sako.


Getting technical about it....they were made for Ithaca by Tikka, before Sako owned Tikka. I believe they were being made in the mid to late '60's to early 70's but don't quote me on those exact dates. You get the idea though. They are very well made, I'm certain of that.


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Originally Posted by JGRaider
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I remember them as the "Ithaca" LSA. Thought they were a Sako.


Getting technical about it....they were made for Ithaca by Tikka, before Sako owned Tikka. I believe they were being made in the mid to late '60's to early 70's but don't quote me on those exact dates. You get the idea though. They are very well made, I'm certain of that.


Exactly on the money.

Ithaca was the importer. They were built by Tikka, and are seriously nice rifles, that almost nobody knows about. Very nice walnut stocks that when you handle it you know immediately that the person who designed it was a shooter. Bofors steel barrel. Great shooters. One of the true "sleepers" of the rifle world.


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Tikka with Limbsaver pad and it will not beat you up.


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Originally Posted by kenster99
Go to a gunshow and find a sporterized Springfield. I guess they will always be my favorite 06.

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I like that. My favorites are the M1917 sporters, when done right. The 1903's are damn good rifles too.


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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I have had a bunch of the newer made rifles, but have settled on a Husqvarna for my 30/06. I just find it hard to get excited about a stainless steel and plastic hunting rifle. The action is smooth as butter, it's made of blued steel with a walnut stock and shoots better than I can hold. The best part is it was priced in the same range as the Ruger American. I'd buy another tomorrow, if I ran across it.
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Originally Posted by JGRaider
Does "this guy" have a deluxe model or the regular one?


A standard one (I think) as I have never paid any attention to the deluxe versions.


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Originally Posted by Savage_99
Here is the first one I came across. The bolt handle does not sweep back like ours. This one may be some other action.

Sears M50

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That must be a very early version. Both of the ones I had had the same bolt handle as a typical FN Supreme, swept back with a checkered flat on the knob. I'd think it was a replacement bolt, but the same seller has an identical .270 listed.

My F.I. 1948 has the swept back bolt. Gotta wonder what the dates are on these, and if they're "c" or "h" collars.

EDIT: My bad. Only one rifle. For some reason, it appears in the additional items section as well as the main listing. Another difference I noticed is that the rear sight is dovetailed into the barrel just in front of the receiver, rather than fitted into a dovetail adapter screwed to the barrel. Curiouser and curiouser.

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T3 Super lite stainless fluted on sale at sportsmans warehouse , with a limb saver pad.

Of course, an older Tikka LSA or Sako is pretty hard to beat, too.

I love my super lite in 308, but have a Remington 722 in 308 that is my all time favorite. It was made the year of my birth and I'm 12 animals for 13 attempts with it.



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Originally Posted by Mathsr
I have had a bunch of the newer made rifles, but have settled on a Husqvarna for my 30/06. I just find it hard to get excited about a stainless steel and plastic hunting rifle. The action is smooth as butter, it's made of blued steel with a walnut stock and shoots better than I can hold. The best part is it was priced in the same range as the Ruger American. I'd buy another tomorrow, if I ran across it.
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I agree. I've owned four of them. Three .30-06's. If I were picking from current production I would go with the Tikka T3.

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Originally Posted by Mathsr
I have had a bunch of the newer made rifles, but have settled on a Husqvarna for my 30/06. I just find it hard to get excited about a stainless steel and plastic hunting rifle. The action is smooth as butter, it's made of blued steel with a walnut stock and shoots better than I can hold. The best part is it was priced in the same range as the Ruger American. I'd buy another tomorrow, if I ran across it.
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Amen, that is a damn good one right there. All anyone would ever need in a hunting rifle. I had a chance to buy one at $400.00 and should have, but you snooze you loose. I also know a girl that bought a lightweight 1600 270 Winchester for $350.00. Every bit as good/functional as a pre 64 model 70, but at a fraction of the cost..


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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About five years ago, I was in a So Cal gun shot. Yeah, I know. We still have a few left. Anyway, there was a Pre-'64 Winchester chambered in .270 Win (Jack O'Connor special) on the rack. It had a era-appropriate scope (read: needed an updated model). It was in good condition. The shop was asking a grand for the rifle. I picked it up. It was one heavy gun. I decided to stick with the 2 .270 Win rifles I have.

Pre-'64 Winchester Model 70's were hand fitted, I believe. I might be wrong. Anyway, they were the gold standard at one time. Just as gold changes hands, so do standards. Computer-aided manufacturing has taken human error out of production. Now even a promotional rifle will shoot well. In fact, I have a friend who bought a Remington promotional rifle. That darn thing didn't know it was a promotional rifle. It shot like it was custom made.

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Originally Posted by SakoAV
About five years ago, I was in a So Cal gun shot. Yeah, I know. We still have a few left. Anyway, there was a Pre-'64 Winchester chambered in .270 Win (Jack O'Connor special) on the rack. It had a era-appropriate scope (read: needed an updated model). It was in good condition. The shop was asking a grand for the rifle. I picked it up. It was one heavy gun. I decided to stick with the 2 .270 Win rifles I have.

Pre-'64 Winchester Model 70's were hand fitted, I believe. I might be wrong. Anyway, they were the gold standard at one time. Just as gold changes hands, so do standards. Computer-aided manufacturing has taken human error out of production. Now even a promotional rifle will shoot well. In fact, I have a friend who bought a Remington promotional rifle. That darn thing didn't know it was a promotional rifle. It shot like it was custom made.


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Ignore the rest of these suggestions and find yourself a Model 70 Classic (5 digit serial number) with or without the BOSS (I actually like them). Then load up 57.5 grains of H4350 with any good 165-168 bullet and go hunting.

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