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There you go! You do not shoot with monos and still want to shoot through the shoulders with bullets which WILL destroy a large quantity of meat.

If you had shot monos you would have seen the difference. I stand by my contention that deliberate shots through the shoulders with C&C bullets is at best disrespectful...

One of the first things I noticed when I switched from C&C bullets to Nosler Partitions is that I had less meat chewed up with just about any hit, and smaller exits.

They certainly killed as well and as quickly and maybe better with hits that needed more penetration.

I am not surprised that the Barnes boys are noticing the same sort of things and maybe to a greater degree.

It is a huge difference, almost always.

I try to shoot everything in the shoulders, too brushy around here to track critters, I love c&c boolits...

And I'm sure the deer feels really bad about being disrespected.

If it floats your boat you get to live with it. If you ever develop ANY class you will feel bad about it... the deer always loses.

You do what works for you. The rest of us slob hunters will get by.

If you respect the animal so much why do you kill it?! They're food on the hoof, for goodness sake.

Food on the hoof? So you shoot said food right through the food?

You cannot be serious? Call me anything you wish but I am not so goofy as to miss the miss...

Slob works for me... describing you...

A) likes to do things that make him feel good, but that in reality have no impact

B) likes to think he is superior to others

C) wants to impose his "morals" on others


Are you a Democrat??

It is an absolutely "huge" difference. It has to be at least a pound or two of meat or so on a deer. Good grief!

Yes. I am serious. After I kill an animal I take it to the processor. After ageing for a couple weeks they are reduced to steaks and roasts....you know....food.

Having seen easily a hundred pounds of meat ruined on a single moose more than once, a bison once, and lots of shoulders that amounted to a Hell of a lot more than a pound or two on a deer... I stand by my statement, absolutely.

Just because you fail to see the obvious does not mean it is not there.

If you have issues with someone on an internet site creating that feeling in you, I suggest you find a mirror.

I have not imposed anything on anyone. I have simply given my opinion. You are free to keep your head planted or look around.

You obviously are as good at noting bullet performance differences as you are at political insight...

I have seen the work of dozens of ordinary cup and cores, as well as an equal number of better bullets used on moose over a few decades. Never have I seen anything close to a hundred pounds of meat ruined by any of them. That said, while mono-copper/bronze tend, on average by long stretch, to ruin a lot less meat than most others, it has also been the mono-coppers which have made some of the biggest wastes of good meat. And, while bullet placement matters more than anything when it comes to ruined meat - and that applies to breaking big bones perhaps more than anything else- a monolithic bullet vs heavy bone is nowhere near as destructive as a cup and core often is.

But I tend to think meat damage is also related to two significant if secondary factors, those being very high-speed impacts, and prolonged time between initial contact with the animal and the termination of circulation (which is related to where the bullet(s) were placed).

I've used the TTSX and selected CnC bullets (read not varmint bullets) on the animals that I hunt. I know what works, and what doesn't.

I can't speak to bison or moose or conditions where you hunt.

And you can't extrapolate your experience on selected animals in your flora, to reach a conclusion about what is best in other conditions and on other animals. Moreover, it is quite presumptive to use those same data to condemn others's ethics.

You can stand by whatever you like. But it is without credibility outside your narrow little world.

In 2014 I misjudged the wind and lost my first big game animal. From the initial heavy, dark blood trail the bullet hit the liver and blood chest high on the brush on both sides of the trail showed the bullet exited. The cow went over a ridge, across a valley and over an even higher ridge before we lost the trail.

Wish I had hit it in the shoulder instead. A little lost meat is nothing compared to losing the entire animal.

I happen to hunt all sorts of critters, including deer... and have seen huge meat loss on deer and it averages well north of two or three pounds. I doubt your hunting World is even close to as wide as mine, but no need to disabuse you of your fantasies...

Yes, I know, you've made it quite clear... You have broader experience, higher moral character, better ethics, higher IQ, and probably a longer...

Have a nice life.