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Ya'll are making me hanker again for a .50...


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Originally Posted by tex_n_cal
Ya'll are making me hanker again for a .50...


Get on it Tex, they are a BLAST, gotta take mine hunting this year to see how it does on game.


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I'm still thinking on it

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/579192799

If I jump I'd hire the rolling block Meister to examine the rifle. smile


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I wouldn't shoot that rifle on gunbroker for money. Just sayin'.

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Whewwww, damn Tex, that rifle looks awful light, with a skinny butt too, don't know what twist it has, but 700 grains outta that one would be brutal with full bore black powder loads.


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Gunner, whats the naked and patched diameter of your PP bullets?
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Originally Posted by gunner500
Whewwww, damn Tex, that rifle looks awful light, with a skinny butt too, don't know what twist it has, but 700 grains outta that one would be brutal with full bore black powder loads.


I asked him what it weighs, we'll see what he says. For me it would be a hunter, not so much for long strings on the line. There are some 500-540gr flat points out there in the .510 to .512 range, and that's what I'd probably use.

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I wouldn't shoot that rifle on gunbroker for money. Just sayin'.


grin aside from recoil, I wouldn't shoot any original roller without an expert checking it. And I ain't no expert on them smile


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If that roller is a original .50-70 re chambered it will shoot a light bullet with it's slower twist. Recoil I don't think would be a factor. I think it would make a nice woods hunting rifle easy to carry.
It's a rifle that would not be a bench rifle, you make off hand snap shots or lean on a tree. You probably would never feel the recoil during a hunting situation. I don't anyway when I take a shot at a deer.

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If that barrel was made by who I THINK it was, it may very well be a real hummer.....PARTICULARLY if the fella that made the barrel fitted it and did the action tuning.


If it fell into my clutches, I'd look at sleeving that barrel with some common DOM Tubing, and ballasting the void with tungsten powder / epoxy.

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I just weight my Carbine and it weighs 7# 7 OZ. but it's a 45-70

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Originally Posted by gunner500
Whewwww, damn Tex, that rifle looks awful light, with a skinny butt too, don't know what twist it has, but 700 grains outta that one would be brutal with full bore black powder loads.


Those original Rem. Military Buttplates are WAY wider than the "Crescent" variety, and as well that Original Sharps Military abortion.

I LIKE that thing, myself,....and If old Shuetz ( one pf P.O. Ackley's old pards) put it together, it's a steal at the asking price.

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I just look at that rifle it has a 1/2 round barrel so that should add some weight, But I wouldn't give that starting price for a parts build roller carbine. I have rifle and carbine that I don't have that much invested in both.

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The problem is, we don't know the barrel twist. If it is the original slow twist, it MIGHT shoot the lighter bullets. In that case, recoil will be stiff, but manageable. I have had a couple of 50-90s with slow twists that wouldn't shoot the light bullets, or any other bullet worth a damn, so you never know. If it is the 1-22 or 1-26 twist, it is going to take at least a 650 grain bullet to make it shoot. My 50-90 shoots a 650 grain bullet into 1 1/2 inches center to center at 100 yards, and at 13 pounds it still kicks. A lot. No way I'm going to shoot a 7 1/2 pound rifle in that caliber with any weight bullet, let alone 650 to 750 grains. I don't have that much hair on my chest, and I don't want floaters or a detached retina in my shooting eye.

The thing about a 50-90 is that some of them will shoot, and gunner and Kurt have rifles that will, as will mine, but not all of them are shooters. FWIW, I have owned seven 50-90 Sharps, and the one I have now is the only one that I have owned that would consistently stay under four inches at 100 with black powder with any load or bullet I tried. The other six have long since gone down the road. I still have a big stack of targets I can show somebody if they want to see them.

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I know the .50 is not for everyone. I like mine and I can shoot it quite well. I don't shoot it to much anymore maybe be because my 76 years are starting to catch up with me but it is I the Gypsy wagon when I go to the matches. I reach for it when the conditions are tough.
One day the kids where here and my Son saw the .50 leaning on the stair case rail and he asked me can you hit a poker chip at 100 yards with it using those iron sights? He shoot the varmint rifle scoped.
I said well get some scotch tape and tape it in the center of that 130 yard target in the center of the black because I won't be able to see the chip so I will lign up on the black bull. smile
I grabbed a hand full of shells while he was taping the chip to the target, they where mixed 680 gr HP and 720 gr creedmoor nosed. I shot and he said I still see the chip with a snicker and after 4 shots he said I still see it LOL. Well lets walk down and take a look. Well I didn't center it but I took out 4 nickes around the edges smile
I just love it when things work out LOL.


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I told you boys Kurt could shoot.

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Bill we all have our good and bad days. That chip is not as good as the 5 you put on the 400 yd iron you could cover with that nicked up chip with barrel sights. 130 yards ain't nothing

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Originally Posted by crossfireoops
Originally Posted by gunner500
Whewwww, damn Tex, that rifle looks awful light, with a skinny butt too, don't know what twist it has, but 700 grains outta that one would be brutal with full bore black powder loads.


Those original Rem. Military Buttplates are WAY wider than the "Crescent" variety, and as well that Original Sharps Military abortion.

I LIKE that thing, myself,....and If old Shuetz ( one pf P.O. Ackley's old pards) put it together, it's a steal at the asking price.

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That's good to hear Cross, I was thinking after I saw the gunbroker rifle Tex posted about that it was kinda like that light weight roller you were talking about earlier today.

And yes, I like the big butt plates too, iirc the steel butt on my 8 bore is nearly 2.5"s wide, I'll take it! smile


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Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by Kurt71
Gunner The .50 recoil has a effect on the elevation from the muzzle jump over the smaller lighter calibers. But at 1300 plus fps that bullet is not in the 30" barrel to long


I'm gonna give the 50 a fair shake on some heavy game Kurt, even if I have to take it to Africa.


I got a spare if you need it....and it's AWESOME!! GREAT BIG DIFFERENCE in the WHANG of that 720 gr. vs any of the .45 loads!!

This one....ain't light!

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Oh hell, don't tell me you've got a 50 cal bull gun.


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Originally Posted by gunner500
Oh hell, don't tell me you've got a 50 cal bull gun.


Two!

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