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My friend's .280 shoots 1/2" groups at 100 yards consistently. That's better than most bolt guns. The Buffalo Classic will shoot with any Sharps. It has a steel triggerguard.

The triggerguard makes it more accurate? Wow...

Now, about those matches won by Handis?

Attend any CAS event and you will see Handis spanking them high dollar Sharps.

CAS events, huh?

Ranges at those events are what distance?

Oh, and those are local matches, which 99.9% of the time turn on the shooter, not the gun.

Try a larger match, say of regional or national consequence, where the shooters are all of near-equal skill, and see how many Handis you count.

And, I have been to a few CAS events; and have seen damned near everything win a few times.

Swamp, the Buffalo Classic will shoot with any Sharps?

Man that is a mouthful there. You'd better give us some specifics. I currently have two Shiloh Sharps in the rack, a 40-70ss and a 45-100. The 100 I have used to shoot myself into Master class. If you know of someone with a Handi that will shoot with me and my Shiloh 100 everyone here would dearly love the hear of it. The 40-70ss has accounted for around 140 head of game and the last time I put it on steel at 500m it was running about 10 inches with a Paul Jones 420gr bore rider. That's not a BS result, that's lead on steel.

You do know that most of the C. Sharps have Badger barrels on them?

You do know that the Pedersoli Sharps have some of the smoothest, choked barrels that have ever been on the market?

Talk is cheap, can you give us some REAL results from a match?

Want to see what just any old Sharps will do? Look up the Raton results from the BPCR nationals.

I assume that you understand that any unsupported statement you make is instantly dismissed by those of us that actually compete with single shot rifles.

This has been fun, talking about single shots, but unless you can actually give us some evidence that you know anything about them I am going to have to move on. Namibia and the Martini and Hagn 300 win. mag. require my attention.

Take care,
SS
Josh

Where I shoot, 3/8 groups is last place. Like to see it though, a handi shooting those groups (i.e. 5 rounds 1/2 MOA) consistently.

Frankly, I'm suspicious of such claims. Trigger, lock time, bbl, etc. on the Handi aren't all that impressive. The are fundemantal design issues with any break open rifle that add to lack of precision. It's not necessarily the fault of the Handi, but the whole break open class of rifles. If the design were capable of great accuracy, you'd see them in things like bench rest comps, rather than the turn bolts that dominate the class.

I'm not sure where you're located, but I'm in Helena MT. Come out this way and we'll have a little shoot off.

SharpsShooter, I heard somewhere that NEF rifles aren't allowed to compete in BPCR matches. Is that true?

This is really going nowhere, and I'm invoking ( with Sharps, Hepburns, Win High Walls, Low walls, Rollers, Stevens, Ruger #1s, Martinis, Mauser 71s, 71-84s, Kropatscheks, Ballards, Trapdoors,Remington Lees,H&As, and probably a few I've forgot )..........both originals and quality replicas under my belt.........

The DFTFT clause here.......

And I have, sadly had to mess with some NEF SS rifles, as well. They're OK, but time to knock off the BS. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

Let's get back to discussing single shot rifles, or cut off equipped mossy funky gun designs here.

The NEF is NOT legal in NRA BPCRS, under current regs.
a simple mod would qualify it.....NEF has ignored that.

Hinge in the middle dittos, the design is fundamentally flawed.

" 280Rem "...???.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" />

GTC

Cross, I do hereby bow to the DFTFT clause as invoked by you. You are right, stupid subject.

SS

quigley shoulda packed a nef. maybe he will in the next movie. wouldn't that be a hoot!!!
dennis

Crossfire, Sharpsshooter, Sealer, VA, Shootist, et.al:

I really HATED to do it, but a fair number of posts on this thread now read:

[color:"red"]*** You are ignoring this user *** [/color]


I believe this is the best way for me to DFTFT! In four years of rallying around the Campfire, this is only the 2nd or 3rd time I had to resort to this tactic. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> But, truth to be told, I just can't stand the BS any longer. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

[color:"green"] Grasshopper [/color]

And a very Happy Birthday to you, too, Grasshopper!

Did some bald guy in a peach coloured toga ever say to you, "Quick as you can, snatch the pebbles from my hand?" And when you did, did he follow up with, "Time for you to go, Grasshopper?" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> (Ya can always tell an old guy by the vintage of TV he remembers. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> )

what's DFTFT ???

Dont Feed the <bleepin'> Trolls

They are great little guns, you should try one.

I've got an NEF Pardner shotgun, an NEF Handi-rifle in 243 Win, and an H&R Buffalo Classic. The shotgun is a $100 job that could double as a pry bar or jack handle. The 243 shoots okay, but it looks like the jack handle with a scope on it. The only one really worth having is the Buffalo Classic, and I still prefer the Ruger #1 I have as well. Not likely to buy another handi. Very likely will buy another Ruger #1.

How many do you own?

Five and an extra barrel so far. I'll probably buy at least 2 more. I know folks that have 40+ Handis and Pardners. I don't care for rimless cartridges much, so I won't buy a Handi chambered for a rimless cartridge. If your interested Graybeard's Outdoors has "Handiholic" shirts and caps.

Five and an extra barrel so far. I'll probably buy at least 2 more. I know folks that have 40+ Handis and Pardners. I don't care for rimless cartridges much, so I won't buy a Handi chambered for a rimless cartridge. If your interested Graybeard's Outdoors has "Handiholic" shirts and caps.

I'd still rather have one Ruger #1 in my choice of rimmed or rimless cartridges than a dozen NEFs. (Probably the best one might do with a dozen NEFs would be a straight across trade for one #1 anyway, if that.)

And while snobbishness is rather unsavory from "the high dollar crowd" when one comes across it (but that has hardly reared it's head here that I am aware), it is nothing next to a "cheap whore" who tries to do the same - and there has been plenty of that. The NEF is a simple tool, adequate for simple chores (and not a weapon I'd disparage at all in the hands of a young person just starting out or one who simply needed a pot gun on a very simple budget. That said, there are better choices even in pot guns than an NEF single to fit similar budget considerations.)

The biggest problem here is not the weapon in question, it is, rather, a fellow so full of himself - and probably little else other than a bit of swamp gas perhpas - that he has resorted to using the lowly NEF as a tool to try to leverage a position for himself. Truth is, he has done nothing but distort and stain the image of this humble rifle as he has used it to shovel himself deeper into a hole of his own making. There is neither honor nor respect in the depths of that hole and only complete disdain for the NEF and every other shooting tool in question, remarks to the contrary notwithstanding. Even the NEF does not deserve this kind of treatment.

I'm trying to get rid of my pardner and Handi in 243 to make room for some decent guns in my safe. I'll keep the Buffalo Classic 'cause it's fun to shoot.

And I am in no way a Handiholic. But they say admitting you have a problem is about half way to getting the cure, so maybe there is hope for you yet.