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Ann Dunham was born in Kansas. End of story. End of story only if you do not have a clue what the real story (law) says about it... or if you have an agenda to go with your cluelessness... The dominant legal understanding, outlined in a recent Harvard Law Review article, is that anyone who is born in the United States is a “natural born citizen,” and so is anyone who (like Cruz) was born to American-citizen parents, regardless of the place of birth. This understanding rests partly on 18th-century evidence about what the Framers of the Constitution understood “natural born citizen” to mean. British law used the phrase to include both people born in Britain and people born to British subjects overseas. Congress’ first statute about American citizenship—the Naturalization Act of 1790—similarly described children born to American citizens abroad as “natural born citizens.” So it seems reasonable to think that the Framers meant the same thing when they used the phrase in the Constitution. Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ight-president-2016-213660#ixzz4KcHxGFB7 Though the intent is obvious, the details of the law are just as important. The details of the law, in 1961, prevented Obama's mother from conferring US citizenship to Barry. She did not meet the requirements.
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The questions about the inmates linger, Rob. When will you get back to us on that subject?
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It's about like this:
"Do you puff peters?"
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"NAZI!!!"
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Ann Dunham was born in Kansas. End of story. End of story only if you do not have a clue what the real story (law) says about it... or if you have an agenda to go with your cluelessness... The dominant legal understanding, outlined in a recent Harvard Law Review article, is that anyone who is born in the United States is a “natural born citizen,” and so is anyone who (like Cruz) was born to American-citizen parents, regardless of the place of birth. This understanding rests partly on 18th-century evidence about what the Framers of the Constitution understood “natural born citizen” to mean. British law used the phrase to include both people born in Britain and people born to British subjects overseas. Congress’ first statute about American citizenship—the Naturalization Act of 1790—similarly described children born to American citizens abroad as “natural born citizens.” So it seems reasonable to think that the Framers meant the same thing when they used the phrase in the Constitution. Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ight-president-2016-213660#ixzz4KcHxGFB7 Though the intent is obvious, the details of the law are just as important. The details of the law, in 1961, prevented Obama's mother from conferring US citizenship to Barry. She did not meet the requirements. According to the law, Obama was born a US citizen.
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SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."
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Ann Dunham was born in Kansas. End of story. End of story only if you do not have a clue what the real story (law) says about it... or if you have an agenda to go with your cluelessness... The dominant legal understanding, outlined in a recent Harvard Law Review article, is that anyone who is born in the United States is a “natural born citizen,” and so is anyone who (like Cruz) was born to American-citizen parents, regardless of the place of birth. This understanding rests partly on 18th-century evidence about what the Framers of the Constitution understood “natural born citizen” to mean. British law used the phrase to include both people born in Britain and people born to British subjects overseas. Congress’ first statute about American citizenship—the Naturalization Act of 1790—similarly described children born to American citizens abroad as “natural born citizens.” So it seems reasonable to think that the Framers meant the same thing when they used the phrase in the Constitution. Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ight-president-2016-213660#ixzz4KcHxGFB7 Though the intent is obvious, the details of the law are just as important. The details of the law, in 1961, prevented Obama's mother from conferring US citizenship to Barry. She did not meet the requirements. According to the law, Obama was born a US citizen. Not according to the law at the time he was born.
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According to the Constitution, Obama was born a US citizen.
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“In Trump We Trust.” Right????
SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."
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Suit yourself. I do not believe he has proven that.
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Suit yourself. I do not believe he has proven that. This was hashed to death when Trump also raised the citizenship question about Cruz. Pick your expert and choose your side. Most but not all agreed with Cruz. My take is that Cruz is one of the brightest legal minds in the Senate and knows what he is doing. He had this legal question figured out long before he threw his hat in the ring.
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SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."
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It actually was NOT hashed to death. That's the problem. Oh, there was a lot of hubbub, but nothing was actually investigated. For instance, what about Obama's status as a student? The easy answer would be to just release that information. Turns out, any attempt to pursue the issue of Obama's status was stopped short of an actual investigation. We are left with nothing of substance at all. Call me silly, but I think spending a million dollars to keep something hidden is kinda fishy. I also do not trust that our politicians have thoroughly vetted obama. In my opinion, I doubt they did anything at all. So no, while it WAS given airtime and commented on, it was NOT hashed out legally after a thorough investigation. Any legal process was simply not allowed to proceed. Kinda like Hillary is innocent because she was not prosecuted, but that's another story....
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According to the Constitution, Obama was born a US citizen. But we know the Constitution only applies when it fits your own purposes, or don't it?
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