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reads like "grumpy old farts"....

That all depends on what the definition of "is" is.

That's right. I prefer to recover my elk, and mine's already in the freezer.

That's hilarious coming from a guy who can't answer a simple yes or no question:

"Is a gun a toy?"



Make no mistake CH, I understand your feeble argument better than you do. You found a definition of "toy" in Merriam-Webster that you think defines gun, at least some of the time. Therefore, a gun is a toy. Or can be, some of the time.

Well, I found a definition of "cat" in Merriam Webster:

Simple Definition of cat

: a small animal that is related to lions and tigers and that is often kept by people as a pet

: a lion, tiger, leopard, or similar wild animal

: a man

So, I conclude that a man is a cat, at least some of the time.

Make sense?

Thanks for proving my point.

People call men "cat" sometimes but that doesn't mean that a man is a cat. It's just slang usage.

People call guns "toys" sometimes (personally, I hate that) but that doesn't mean guns are toys. Slang usage.

And you're still as FOS as a Christmas turkey.

This thread is Epic, on its way to Uber.

That's right. I prefer to recover my elk, and mine's already in the freezer this year. Plus, I like to get at least out of sight of the pickup. Makes me feel like I'm "getting out there."

reads like "grumpy old farts"....

Struck a nerve, eh? As far as having the balls to post about losing one "on a public forum," the last time I lost one was about 10 years ago. I wrote a story about that one, it was published in Bugle. Of course, that story had a happy ending. I wasn't hunting next to private property, so I could follow the elk. After looking for the elk until well after midnight the evening I shot it (got dark at 7) I came back the next morning and found it. The meat was still good.

philosophical question, If someone points what appears to be a gun at me they will probably be shot. If it turns out to be a toy gun are they less dead?

Guns may be fun but to consider them toys is fatuous.

To defend that concept is moronic.


mike r

CH, I'm about done with this. I'm going fishing with my son and his girlfriend, into a little box canyon that's walk-in only, with browns that will jump all over a dry caddis.

Let me leave you with one final thought/question:

Imagine yourself at your rifle range with your daughter and young grandson. You go to get your rifle out of the truck and absebtmindedly say “let me get my toy.”

Your young grandson gives you a look, and says “grandpa, is that really a toy?”

How would you answer him? Would you say “why, yes it is a toy because one definition of “toy” (out of 8) in the Merriam Webster online dictionary seems to fit.”

Or would you pull your head out long enough to say, “no son, this is most definitely not a toy.”