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Originally Posted by prm


That bullet must have a much shorter hole in the front than the .338 versions I've used. The only one I've recovered from an animal was .75" across the front (launched at same 3050fps).


Yep, I load the 185 TTSX in 338 RCM and they expand as expected.



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Seems like when velocity is moderate enough to where reliable expansion of mono-bullets is in question, the Partition is generally a pretty good answer, assuming one still wants decent penetration. I'm no elk hunter, but that's what I would load in a 7mm-08 if I was taking one. Either 140's or 150's, whatever shot well.


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The Sierra SBT's are ok but don't use the HP's on elk. They're made for deer.
AB's are the most accurate bullet I've ever shot but they ruin too much meat for my taste.
I've had GREAT luck with Speer Hotcores but I can't get them locally any more. I hate to have to order my bullets. I've shot a lot of elk with Hotcores and find them to work as well as Partitions.


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I love Hotcores, my favorite C&C bullet... took last years 7x7 bull with a 165 from my 308.


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Originally Posted by JPro
Seems like when velocity is moderate enough to where reliable expansion of mono-bullets is in question, the Partition is generally a pretty good answer, assuming one still wants decent penetration. I'm no elk hunter, but that's what I would load in a 7mm-08 if I was taking one. Either 140's or 150's, whatever shot well.


I've found that in those scenarios a premium isn't needed at all. An IL, BT, HC, etc do the job just fine at moderate speeds.

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Barnes TTSXs properly propelled, like Porsche, there is no substitute smile


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Originally Posted by Brad
My impression is the 150 NBT is a bit stouter than the 150 Sierra, but I'd not hesitate to use the Sierra. Can't really see the need for a mono. The 7-08, like the 308, isn't especially tough on projectiles.

I took a decent 6x6 bull with the 150 NBT season before last... bullet traveled 32" of elk at an angle. Quickest kill I've ever seen on a bull.

My first choice would be the 140 Accubond or Partition if you can get either to shoot. Otherwise, I'd not hesitate to stay with the Sierra.


That's the experience I'd listen to personally. He has THE experience that matters IMHO.

Monos weren't ever meant for cartridges like the 7-08 tho they'll clearly work there. The whole reason they were developed was due to the stress on bullets from >3000 fps speeds.

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My experience is limited to three bulls. Two, a 4x4 and a spike, died right now from a single 140 Partition. 47.5 gr Big Game, Winchester magnum primer, 2870 MV.
The 4x4 was only 68 yards, I broke the on side scapula, double lung, caught the bullet under the hide on the far side. Two steps forward, two steps backward, fell over.

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The spike was 346 yards, steeply quartered away. Shot behind the right shoulder, double lung, bullet exited just in front of the left leg. Straight down, not a step.

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Same load but 140 Accubond, 225 yards, MV 2850, double lung and exit. My dad's best bull so far.

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30 yards and fell over.




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Partitions are and continue to be the standard. If your rifle shoots them, use them! I used them in Africa out of my 300 Weatherby with great results. That said the locus of this thread included Sierras, which I would never use on anything except varmints at any speed in any caliber.


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In that cartridge I'm with you Jorge; 168 gr TTSXs!!

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I've killed elk with 7mm NBT and TTSX 150 grains out of a 7 RM over 300 yards with excellent results from the TTSX and good and bad from the Nosler. What convinced me though was breaking bones with exits on a big boar at over 500 yards with the Barnes, that isn't something that the Nosler would be good at. Accubonds didn't shoot well or perform well on deer, that is where the NBT is the best choice in my experience .

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Originally Posted by jorgeI
Partitions are and continue to be the standard. If your rifle shoots them, use them! I used them in Africa out of my 300 Weatherby with great results. That said the locus of this thread included Sierras, which I would never use on anything except varmints at any speed in any caliber.



I hear folks echo this but I haven't had any issues with some Sierra bullets. I have killed quite a number of animals with the 140 grain Game King from my 260 and 260AI. In fact, this was the bullet that I just took to Kodiak Island on a deer hunt.

This, heavy for caliber bullet, is very accurate, very reliable and very inexpensive. I have killed 400 # bears, bull elk, feral horses, deer and cow elk with this bullet. I have no complaints. At 260 Velocities it holds together and expands to a perfect mushroom, does loads of internal damage and penetrates nicely.

My Kodiak blacktail took one round at 400 yards quartering away. Missed ribs on way in, made a 1" size hole in heart, top of one lung and exited the shoulder. Deer took one step backwards and flopped over dead. This is typical of this bullet.

Shot a large black bear 3 years ago, bear took one step and fell on his nose, range was 20 feet.

I have not used them in my 708 but I'll bet the 160 GK and 175 GK will work the same way.

The Partitions work good but they cost twice as much and are not as easy to get to shoot as these Sierras.


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Originally Posted by jorgeI
Partitions are and continue to be the standard. If your rifle shoots them, use them! I used them in Africa out of my 300 Weatherby with great results. That said the locus of this thread included Sierras, which I would never use on anything except varmints at any speed in any caliber.


I have no problem sending Sierra bullets at elk with 7-08. My freezer has been filled several times over using them. Experience trumps guessing.

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Originally Posted by wyoelk

I have no problem sending Sierra bullets at elk with 7-08. My freezer has been filled several times over using them. Experience trumps guessing.


Which Sierra?

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Originally Posted by wyoelk
Experience trumps guessing.


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Originally Posted by JGRaider
I'd feel very good with a 140 partition or accubond personally, loaded to 2800fps.


That's what I'd use.




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Originally Posted by BobinNH
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I'd feel very good with a 140 partition or accubond personally, loaded to 2800fps.


That's what I'd use.
Interesting,I would use the 160 gr NP or even a 160 gr SAF.


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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
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I'd feel very good with a 140 partition or accubond personally, loaded to 2800fps.


That's what I'd use.
Interesting,I would use the 160 gr NP or even a 160 gr SAF.


Ken: I like the 160 in the bigger 7mm's. smile





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I like the 160 in any 7mm cartridge. wink



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